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<blockquote data-quote="ripnbst" data-source="post: 2061468" data-attributes="member: 16136"><p>Are there really laws that hamper teachers abilities to police their own classrooms? And Administrators their buildings? I mean, I know in the public eye one ounce of perceived harshness on student and there is public outcry but are there any legal ramifications? That is what happened in the linked instance of the students cleaning. The teacher punished them, then parents called and complained about the cleaners in the face, then THE TEACHER IS SUSPENDED!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? It was the teachers lapse in judgement to give the children such strong cleaners is probably the administrators reasoning. These kids are in 8th grade, meaning they are somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 years old. They dont know not to spray someone in the face with cleaner? Bull.</p><p></p><p>I don't know that I am necessarily talking about getting physical with my child, let me know whats going on and I will get as physical with him/her as I think is safe/necessary. I realize that this too could be a part of the problem. Teachers notify parents, then the parents don't do anything, and then teachers say "Oh well, lost cause" and they stop caring. What approach should be taken is if kids continue to be problematic kick them out of school. IMO you then make the student the parent's problem again, not yours. When it's their problem they have to deal with it. It's much easier to just not do anything when they are in school 8 hours a day. When they are at home and your problem/responsibility more will get done about it in most cases I would guess. Not to mention taking that child away from their friends and putting them into another school forcing them to make new ones might be just what they need. or, it will be enough punishment and incentive for them to clean up their act and go back to school with their old friends.</p><p></p><p>Kids are in school for 8 hrs a day, the way they are made to behave there will have an effect on them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ripnbst, post: 2061468, member: 16136"] Are there really laws that hamper teachers abilities to police their own classrooms? And Administrators their buildings? I mean, I know in the public eye one ounce of perceived harshness on student and there is public outcry but are there any legal ramifications? That is what happened in the linked instance of the students cleaning. The teacher punished them, then parents called and complained about the cleaners in the face, then THE TEACHER IS SUSPENDED!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? It was the teachers lapse in judgement to give the children such strong cleaners is probably the administrators reasoning. These kids are in 8th grade, meaning they are somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 years old. They dont know not to spray someone in the face with cleaner? Bull. I don't know that I am necessarily talking about getting physical with my child, let me know whats going on and I will get as physical with him/her as I think is safe/necessary. I realize that this too could be a part of the problem. Teachers notify parents, then the parents don't do anything, and then teachers say "Oh well, lost cause" and they stop caring. What approach should be taken is if kids continue to be problematic kick them out of school. IMO you then make the student the parent's problem again, not yours. When it's their problem they have to deal with it. It's much easier to just not do anything when they are in school 8 hours a day. When they are at home and your problem/responsibility more will get done about it in most cases I would guess. Not to mention taking that child away from their friends and putting them into another school forcing them to make new ones might be just what they need. or, it will be enough punishment and incentive for them to clean up their act and go back to school with their old friends. Kids are in school for 8 hrs a day, the way they are made to behave there will have an effect on them. [/QUOTE]
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