He removed the gun from you? Thats not allowed.
I don't get pulled over very often (it helps if you don't drive like a jackass), but when I do, I always hand over both my OKDL and my SDA license. In every case, the officer has asked if I was carrying, and I always answered truthfully (normally I have one in the center console), which is almost always as far as it goes.
There were two times it wasn't--once, not long after the SDA went into effect and before the procedures had been finalized, I got pulled over on the Turner Turnpike. After I informed the Trooper that I was carrying and that my Baby Browning was in my back pocket, he asked me to get out of the car, then asked me to put my hands on my head while he extracted the pistol. He was very polite and professional about it--but it just about freaked out my mother, whom I was taking to Tulsa.
The second time was just a few years ago; I got stopped in a training stop for a show pony (yeah, right, you stopped me because my fog lights were on in inclement conditions). The difference in professionalism between the OHP and this twerp was striking; she was terse, and ordered me to keep my hands on the steering wheel since I'd admitted to having a gun in the car. When she came back she said she'd noticed some fog over by the interstate (yeah, right), so I was free to go. Her FTO wasn't doing a very good job, IMHO...
If you're replying to me, this was in late '96 or early '97, when there were still a lot of unsettled questions relating to policies and procedures--as I recall, even the OHP's procedures varied from troop to troop.He removed the gun from you? Thats not allowed.
Its not illegal to run your fog lights, anytime.
in the event of an arrest, detainment or routine traffic stop, the SDA says if you are carrying you are required to: 1) show
OK ID 2) show Handgun Lic and 3) tell LEO you are carrying.
§21-1290.8.C said:It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed or unconcealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop. Said identification to the law enforcement officer shall be made at the first opportunity. No person shall be required to identify himself or herself as a handgun licensee when no handgun is in the possession of the person or in any vehicle in which the person is driving or is a passenger. Any violation of the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not exceeding One Hundred Dollars ($100.00).
In the City of Tulsa, you may use two (2) white lights on the front of the vehicle at any time.
If you are using your fog lights and your headlights, it is illegal.
We do not enforce the state's traffic laws but I believe the state has a similarly worded statute.
Michael Brown
I have a question, I know you have to inform the LEO when you are stopped and carrying, but does the law state that you have to inform them of where it is? [...] I understand that they would like to know the location of the gun for their safely but are you technically required to do so?
YES, you are!
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