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<blockquote data-quote="Gideon" data-source="post: 3880396" data-attributes="member: 7898"><p>I see 2 discussions going on in here. Both are a little strange.</p><p></p><p>One argument seems to imply that you can't have BOTH a WML and a handheld light.</p><p>YOU SHOULD HAVE BOTH.</p><p></p><p>The second seems to imply that either: 1. You can't safely search or identify targets with a gun mounted light without flagging them with the muzzle, OR 2. You can't shoot with a proper grip while using a handheld light.</p><p></p><p>BOTH ARE UNTRUE.</p><p></p><p>My EDC Modlite handheld has a Thyrm Switchback. I can shoot 2 handed with this setup if my weapon doesn't have a light.</p><p>The Glock 17 I carry has a Surefire x300u, which is bright enough and has enough spill to light up a whole room while pointed up, and which can illuminate an entire person for PID while the muzzle points safely at the ground between us.</p><p></p><p>I refuse to approach self defense and shooting from a position that infantilizes people.</p><p>"Well, if you have a light on your gun, you'll end up using it to search for your keys or something!"</p><p>No, I won't, and you're smart enough to not do it either.</p><p>"Well, if you carry a handheld light, you'll shoot worse without your other hand!"</p><p>No, I practice shooting one handed in case I need the other to secure a kid, dog, or wounded person. You should too. The WML is actually FOR one handed weapon use for when I need to release the handheld to open a door or carry something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gideon, post: 3880396, member: 7898"] I see 2 discussions going on in here. Both are a little strange. One argument seems to imply that you can't have BOTH a WML and a handheld light. YOU SHOULD HAVE BOTH. The second seems to imply that either: 1. You can't safely search or identify targets with a gun mounted light without flagging them with the muzzle, OR 2. You can't shoot with a proper grip while using a handheld light. BOTH ARE UNTRUE. My EDC Modlite handheld has a Thyrm Switchback. I can shoot 2 handed with this setup if my weapon doesn't have a light. The Glock 17 I carry has a Surefire x300u, which is bright enough and has enough spill to light up a whole room while pointed up, and which can illuminate an entire person for PID while the muzzle points safely at the ground between us. I refuse to approach self defense and shooting from a position that infantilizes people. "Well, if you have a light on your gun, you'll end up using it to search for your keys or something!" No, I won't, and you're smart enough to not do it either. "Well, if you carry a handheld light, you'll shoot worse without your other hand!" No, I practice shooting one handed in case I need the other to secure a kid, dog, or wounded person. You should too. The WML is actually FOR one handed weapon use for when I need to release the handheld to open a door or carry something. [/QUOTE]
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