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<blockquote data-quote="YukonGlocker" data-source="post: 2898951" data-attributes="member: 425"><p>Depends on what you mean by "judgement". Quantifying how rights differentially affect individuals or groups of people are important. That doesn't mean policy/law has to change, but creating policies/laws based on rights gives us great responsibility to understand how those rights-based policies/laws affect people. This is particularly important when we're trying to understand controversial or conflicting rights.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it doesn't. But having that data would help those people in other ways. There are many things we can do to improve (or not) society other than changing gun laws (i.e., having this information can actually help preserve gun rights because alternative interventions don't have to involve guns).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly, there are many interventions that work without taking things away. The same principle holds in firearms related cases.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is one of many applications of statistics. On the flip side, they are also used to grant people rights that they didn't have. Statistical analyses that are used in the context of human rights are typically being used because there is a disagreement about the right. Like it, or not, those disagreements have to be argued out; and that means everyone involved needs relevant information (i.e., statistics, etc.) that is as reliable and accurate as possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for pulling those out. Maybe they are worth opening and criticizing now that they aren't embedded in a liberal website.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YukonGlocker, post: 2898951, member: 425"] Depends on what you mean by "judgement". Quantifying how rights differentially affect individuals or groups of people are important. That doesn't mean policy/law has to change, but creating policies/laws based on rights gives us great responsibility to understand how those rights-based policies/laws affect people. This is particularly important when we're trying to understand controversial or conflicting rights. No, it doesn't. But having that data would help those people in other ways. There are many things we can do to improve (or not) society other than changing gun laws (i.e., having this information can actually help preserve gun rights because alternative interventions don't have to involve guns). Exactly, there are many interventions that work without taking things away. The same principle holds in firearms related cases. That is one of many applications of statistics. On the flip side, they are also used to grant people rights that they didn't have. Statistical analyses that are used in the context of human rights are typically being used because there is a disagreement about the right. Like it, or not, those disagreements have to be argued out; and that means everyone involved needs relevant information (i.e., statistics, etc.) that is as reliable and accurate as possible. Thanks for pulling those out. Maybe they are worth opening and criticizing now that they aren't embedded in a liberal website. [/QUOTE]
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