Religious Topics and Questions

[radarmonkey]

Not equally. For example... A circumstance we have no control over is where and what family we are born into. Let's say one kid is born into a Christian family and all he has to do is go with the flow and he's brought up to believe in God and Jesus as the family does... Another kid is born into a family of atheists and they're professors at an astute college who can answer questions and bring him up to be just like them. He may have questions that challenge his family but they answer them to his content, they may even ridicule him for even thinking something else so he doesn't challenge in a sense to keep everything in balance and grows up and surrounds himself with those types of people and that's all he ever knows. For this person to become a believer, they will face challenges, many rather significant that the other child was not faced with. That's not an equal opportunity.

I don't believe that the ability to believe as the Christian faith teaches is an equal opportunity, opportunity.

Why does one person get it easy and another doesn't? This is your eternal well-being at stake here.

But this guy/gal has the oppurtuntiy to walk into a church and ask questions of other people. He/she would have the opportunity to believe IMO.

 

[MaddSkillz]

go to said religious sight... this is an OK gun forums...

friggin baptists...

Lolz, the religious people won't hear me out. I'm a heretic.

 

[radarmonkey]

Lolz, the religious people won't hear me out. I'm a heretic.

I guess it's good you came to us then lol.

 

[OKMike]

Not equally. For example... A circumstance we have no control over is where and what family we are born into. Let's say one kid is born into a Christian family and all he has to do is go with the flow and he's brought up to believe in God and Jesus as the family does... Another kid is born into a family of atheists and they're professors at an astute college who can answer questions and bring him up to be just like them. He may have questions that challenge his family but they answer them to his content, they may even ridicule him for even thinking something else so he doesn't challenge in a sense to keep everything in balance and grows up and surrounds himself with those types of people and that's all he ever knows. For this person to become a believer, they will face challenges, many rather significant that the other child was not faced with. That's not an equal opportunity.

I don't believe that the ability to believe as the Christian faith teaches is an equal opportunity, opportunity.

Why does one person get it easy and another doesn't? This is your eternal well-being at stake here.

But is the kid brought up in the church a true christian or is he just going thru the motions because that is the norm? I had that discussion with a pastor's wife the other day. I think both senarios have challenges to overcome to become a christian.

 

[MaddSkillz]

But this guy/gal has the oppurtuntiy to walk into a church and ask questions of other people. He/she would have the opportunity to believe IMO.

So you agree that salvation is not an equal opportunity, opportunity. Some have to try harder than others.

 

[radarmonkey]

So you agree that salvation is not an equal opportunity, opportunity. Some have to try harder than others.

Now that you bring it up, yeah. Some people would have to make more effort to beleive.

 

[JB Books]

Lolz, the religious people won't hear me out. I'm a heretic.

People who are afraid to examine their beliefs with a critical eye are losers and fools. This applies to religious and political beliefs. A person who blindly accepts dogma can never grow. They are nothing more than intellectual parrots.

 

[radarmonkey]

Ok, think I get what you are saying. If you were born in the deepest, darkest, jungle where no outsiders had ever been and google can't find you, and you lived there from the time you were born until the day you died, and there was not a bible or church or pastor within a thousand miles of you, would you go to heaven or hell when you died?

Ok, so what do you think about this guy?

 

[MaddSkillz]

But is the kid brought up in the church a true christian or is he just going thru the motions because that is the norm? I had that discussion with a pastor's wife the other day. I think both senarios have challenges to overcome to become a christian.

I used to think that as well, in a sense, it would come down to works. But the bible says we're saved by grace, not by works and that it is not of ourselves less anyone should boast.

If we choose to believe, we are essentially saving ourselves. Yet the bible teaches otherwise. It contradicts scripture.

 

[radarmonkey]

People who are afraid to examine their beliefs with a critical eye are losers and fools. This applies to religious and political beliefs. A person who blindly accepts dogma can never grow. They are nothing more than intellectual parrots.

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