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<blockquote data-quote="emapples" data-source="post: 3046883" data-attributes="member: 11752"><p>I think it’s important to point out that science is wrong or false or simply lies.</p><p></p><p>Remember low fat , low far, low fat, it was a craze that lasted almost 30 years. I can Remember fat causes fat, sugar is ok? Butter is so very very bad, improve your health with margarine it’s the bees knees. I remember when butter fell out of vogue and margarines the PHO laden poisons were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Don’t get me wrong there are bad fats, but not all of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dietdoctor.com/time-eat-butter-scientists-labeled-fat-enemy-wrong" target="_blank">https://www.dietdoctor.com/time-eat-butter-scientists-labeled-fat-enemy-wrong</a></p><p></p><p>Ther is increasing alarm thy some of our peer reviewed science is fabricated, it’s showing up in many places.</p><p><a href="http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1512330#t=article" target="_blank">http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1512330#t=article</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/paging-dr-fraud-the-fake-publishers-that-are-ruining-science" target="_blank">https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/paging-dr-fraud-the-fake-publishers-that-are-ruining-science</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/#!po=16.6667" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/#!po=16.6667</a></p><p></p><p>What does this have to do with climate science, nothing except to illustrate that scientific studies can have a desired outcome before the study even begins. Often it’s very large, and very wealthy entities that are funding these “scientific studies” and it’s one thing that I agree with the Democrats on...big business needs to be watched like a hawk because they will kill people knowingly for profit. Big Tobacco is a good example, and there are others that have polluted and or but dangerous or unhealthy products out to market with full knowledge. So where does that leave us? Who can we trust? The Government ? Both Democrats and Republicans line their coffers with funds from these companies, so they (both parties) are equally culpable in my opinion. Trusting the government doesn’t seem to be a good decision (ask an American Indian) so with this in mind who do you trust to give you just the facts start to finish on any one research topic? Academia, I mean does anyone believe the majority in Academia have no agenda to push? So who is it we can rely on to give us all the facts, the answer so far is NOBODY! If anyone has a idea on how to get facts only that can be trusted by all means let me know.</p><p><img src="/images/smilies/image103.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":soapbox:" title="Image103 :soapbox:" data-shortname=":soapbox:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="emapples, post: 3046883, member: 11752"] I think it’s important to point out that science is wrong or false or simply lies. Remember low fat , low far, low fat, it was a craze that lasted almost 30 years. I can Remember fat causes fat, sugar is ok? Butter is so very very bad, improve your health with margarine it’s the bees knees. I remember when butter fell out of vogue and margarines the PHO laden poisons were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Don’t get me wrong there are bad fats, but not all of them. [URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat[/URL] [URL]https://www.dietdoctor.com/time-eat-butter-scientists-labeled-fat-enemy-wrong[/URL] Ther is increasing alarm thy some of our peer reviewed science is fabricated, it’s showing up in many places. [URL]http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1512330#t=article[/URL] [URL]https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/paging-dr-fraud-the-fake-publishers-that-are-ruining-science[/URL] [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/#!po=16.6667[/URL] What does this have to do with climate science, nothing except to illustrate that scientific studies can have a desired outcome before the study even begins. Often it’s very large, and very wealthy entities that are funding these “scientific studies” and it’s one thing that I agree with the Democrats on...big business needs to be watched like a hawk because they will kill people knowingly for profit. Big Tobacco is a good example, and there are others that have polluted and or but dangerous or unhealthy products out to market with full knowledge. So where does that leave us? Who can we trust? The Government ? Both Democrats and Republicans line their coffers with funds from these companies, so they (both parties) are equally culpable in my opinion. Trusting the government doesn’t seem to be a good decision (ask an American Indian) so with this in mind who do you trust to give you just the facts start to finish on any one research topic? Academia, I mean does anyone believe the majority in Academia have no agenda to push? So who is it we can rely on to give us all the facts, the answer so far is NOBODY! If anyone has a idea on how to get facts only that can be trusted by all means let me know. :soapbox: [/QUOTE]
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