West Norman shooting yesterday; shooter was CLEET instructor

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C_Hallbert

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I wouldn't give a crap if Ersland or Kennedy shot, raped, dismembered and burned those guys.

Wouldn't happen if they - the criminals - didn't commit the crime to start with.
In keeping with the legal philosophy that deems any death caused subsequent to a felonious act is attributable to the perpetrator, the homicide in this case should be charged against the deceased…..
 

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Always a good idea to have OC spray in case some idiot needs a dose.
Speaking of sprays. I keep a can of bear spray in my vehicle. The thought is if being surrounded in my vehicle by a mob as we have seen. I might be able to disperse the crowd enough to escape without having to run over or shoot someone.
 
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No guarantee on a bullet either but I’d rather have it. If I used it before a gun I think it might help my defense. Maybe not.
I was taught not to carry too many different weapons, you do not have time to decide which to use. If you can not talk them down, or handle them by hand, it has gotten to bad. Use enough force to stop the confrontation!!!
 

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I was taught not to carry too many different weapons, you do not have time to decide which to use. If you can not talk them down, or handle them by hand, it has gotten to bad. Use enough force to stop the confrontation!!!
12 gauge shotty and a Sawzall. Use both!
 

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Always a good idea to have OC spray in case some idiot needs a dose.
I disagree. If I’m pulling a weapon (OC is a weapon) out it’s because my life is in danger. If my life is in danger then I’m defending myself with the best weapon that I can reasonably carry to end that threat and preserve my life. That means I’m pulling a pistol and if I’m pulling a pistol then I’m shooting.

No half measures.
 

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Show me where those gang bangers were handcuffed in that shooting video
You’re being intentional obtuse. The banger wasn’t cuffed, but he was incapacitated and no longer a threat. You want the guy dead? Fine, kill him while he’s trying to kill you or stealing your livelihood. You’re endorsing cold blooded murder. But like you said, we disagree about what murder is.
 

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Speaking of sprays. I keep a can of bear spray in my vehicle. The thought is if being surrounded in my vehicle by a mob as we have seen. I might be able to disperse the crowd enough to escape without having to run over or shoot someone.
You’d roll your window down to use spray? Screw that, I have 6,000# to help me get off the X.
 

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