I'm not looking for steel cased ammo and can't shoot steel core(I shoot at H&H from time to time). I typically shoot the Wal-Mart 55 gr UMC, but as we're all very aware of it's still tough to catch on the shelf and you can save money ordering in bulk off the net. My brother-in-law found a site where he bought 1000 rounds for 32 cents a round, it's going to take about 6 weeks to get it, but it's one of the better prices I've seen in this crazy market. I was thinking about ordering some too but before I commit that kind of money to ammo I figured I'd better check with the experts on here to see if someone knew of a better deal out there. 1000 rounds will last me quite awhile so I want the best deal I can get. I don't mind waiting, I've got enough to get me by - but I have grown weary of buying 2 boxes at a time as I happen to catch it on the shelf and having to pay .45 a round for it.