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My claim is based on your support for the Palestinian position in this thread (which is either the death, or subjugation under Palestinian rule of the Jews in Israel). What we're telling you is that Palestine has been deeded lands in the region. Palestine has always had the opportunity to be peaceful and prosperous. Palestinians have steadfastly rejected these opportunities in favor of blind hatred and violence towards the Jews in Israel. Hence they reap what they sow. I just re-read every post you've made in this thread. It's 100% Palestinians are the victims and 99% Israelis are the aggressor (you said they could "rightfully" secure their border on page 3).
You appear to be prejudiced in favor of the Palestinians against the Jews in Israel. If you care to clarify your position in order to refute the image you've portrayed to many of us who are willing to discuss the matter objectively, feel free. Otherwise, I stand by my statement.
So you're saying that if he disagrees with the political leadership of Israel, He must be a racist? That sounds like what Eric Holder said the other day.My claim is based on your support for the Palestinian position in this thread (which is either the death, or subjugation under Palestinian rule of the Jews in Israel). What we're telling you is that Palestine has been deeded lands in the region. Palestine has always had the opportunity to be peaceful and prosperous. Palestinians have steadfastly rejected these opportunities in favor of blind hatred and violence towards the Jews in Israel. Hence they reap what they sow. I just re-read every post you've made in this thread. It's 100% Palestinians are the victims and 99% Israelis are the aggressor (you said they could "rightfully" secure their border on page 3).
You appear to be prejudiced in favor of the Palestinians against the Jews in Israel. If you care to clarify your position in order to refute the image you've portrayed to many of us who are willing to discuss the matter objectively, feel free. Otherwise, I stand by my statement.
I for one am not religiously biased towards the Jews in Israel. I've made a value judgement based on my views of moral and more importantly, just behaviors. I've done extensive research on the region that dates back to antiquity. There have been times that I condemn the acts of the Israeli government, just as I have our own government. Wrong is wrong. I also don't believe we should fund Israel to the level we do (though I don't believe we should fund a LOT of other countries to the extent we do, particularly Islamic countries hostile to the U.S.).
However, my judgement of the Palestinian role in the conflict is that it's been mostly unjust. Unless the information I've found coming from allegedly impartial sources is completely untrue, there could've been peace in the middle-east decades ago, had the Palestinians simply acted in a peaceful and positive manner. I've come to the conclusion that they'd prefer to be martyrs rather than good and peaceful neighbors. They've taken the low road repeatedly and they've reaped what they've sown.
That is certainly NOT what I said and you know it. You're intentionally distorting what I said. As a matter of fact, I never once mentioned the political leadership of Israel. Simplisticly put, I pointed out one tribe's (Palestinians) hatered of another tribe (Jews). The Jews in Israel are perfectly fine with allowing the Palestinians their right to exist. The Palestinians are not reciprocating. The Jews in Israel have all the power and the Palestinians none, so we're supposed to side with the Palestinians? Hardly. If that were the case, we would've sided with Russia and China against ourselves.
The political leadership of Israel have made serious missteps along the road of their existence. However, those decisions were mostly made under duress and under direct attack from the Palestinians and their Muslim brethere,n who would give them money and weapons but not a place to live (unlike the Israelis). If suicide bombers were attacking New York City, I'd expect the United States might make a few missteps in our response as well.
Would you disagree with that statement?
I've an understanding of the basic part of that but question some of it's applications in society and it's use as justifications for many actions.
Where do the promises of the chosen people originate, with bloodline or religion? If it's religion/beliefs what are they and who's really following them? and if it's bloodline where does that bloodline go and wouldn't it mean that one bloodline is superior to others kind of like racism? And if the bloodlines are the same or are not there does it show that it's really just about religion or the religious justifications for the actions of some?
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You're preaching to the choir , Mr. Holder.
Dont mistake me with supporting either side. I wasnt being specific and really was painting with a broad brush. I feel same as you for most part. We differ only in my opinion that Israel retaliates a little too heavily handed. They didnt always do that. I think that has to do more with current leadrrship. Netanyahu mainly.
Funny that you're able and willing to ask questions, but you're pathologically incapable of answering them.
