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We hate illegal Mexican laborers and the people who hire them but support "American" companies outsourcing American manufacturing jobs to Mexico and selling here. Because poor hard working CEOs and poor shareholders.

Listening to people blindly support trade policy that will never benefit them is like listening to a 40 year-old virgin talk about sex positions.

Are people by definition blind if they don't agree with you? That seems like a fairly narrow-minded perspective. Protectionist barriers rarely have the desired effect because they simply price products out of the market. It might have some good effect to insist that foreign workers have some kind of wage parity system via international trade agreements but that is also very likely to reduce or limit US workers' compensation. Face it, our heavy industry got big and fat during a post-war period when the rest of the world was physically and politically devastated and we had a really large, running industrial base. As other nations built up capacity, the US advantage in competitive, i.e. easy to do with relatively low or mid-level skilled workers, has disappeared over time. We still have advantages in very highly technical fields and certain specific areas but, frankly, anyone can build a basic or even a good passenger car so why should a consumer pay more for a US made one?

Having said that we can be competitive in the US, we have a relatively well-educated worker populace with a good work ethic in general - sure Carrier left, but Toyota has moved here but not back to the over-taxed social welfare disaster known as Detroit, rather to low-tax, manufacturer friendly South Carolina and like States.
 

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Not that it makes a real difference in the argument, but it's more like 1500x the salary.

His salary, at 211.5 million total would pay ALL 1400 employees 150k/yr.

I'm not in any way FOR pay caps, but I fail to see how one person can *possibly* earn 4000x what the average US income is in profit for a company.

By moving manufacturing to Mexico he will increase profits that much.
 

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I agree, but the cure, IMHO is getting manufacturing back here, before we get to Third World conditions.

I agree with you except that getting the manufacturing back really isn't the cure to the problem, it is the desired end state. The cure would be the how do we do it part, which is a lot harder than identifying the problem.
 

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When Carrier moved their evaporator plant to Mexico several years ago, we experienced a lot of refrigerant leaks in the fin packs. Nearly all of them in the same place. I made money off it but it sure did suck for the US consumer. It gave Carrier a black eye. Their products have gone downhill for awhile and wouldn't sell one to my worst enemy.
exactly,their USA made product sucks so their mexico product will still suck it will just cost less to make their crap
 

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The post-war economic boom of course would have cooled off.

We could have landed in a place of happy medium, though, had the few not been allowed and encouraged to rape and pillage the many.

Maybe it is too late. This was more just your friendly Friday reminder that it's big and veiny and you're gettin' it dry.
 

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Corporations are people, humans are the food for the corporations. Brought to you by the criminals you vote for each election. Trump, Cruz, Bernie or Hillary will save you which is why you'll choose them to be your Jesus like Obama was the savior for the fools who wanted him to be their Jesus.
 

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