When Islam infiltrates the US

[lasher]

Stop promoting falsehoods such as "a fraction of" their number. It's not an insignificant number around the world. It's large minorities or even majorities of Muslims who believe these things, whether they are complicit or just permissive of those behaviors matters not.

wtf does bigotry have to do with cleansing the gene pool of savages who behave much worse than nazi germany ever did, not on the scale of course, but brutality of a sort that needs to be put down. kill them, some more pop up, kill them, repeat over and over again. by their definition the "civilized world" united to stop germany, 30 or so million died during the process, but it did end. and to quote bob dylan now the germans have god on their side. you will never talk a person to death, you might bore them to death, but peaceful isn't in this equation

 

[dennishoddy]

Actors......what a stupid government made up term. Kind of like NOAA. The terms they come up with to describe weather events is ignorant.
Call them what they are, Terrorists/ Criminals. Quit using the politically correct term to sound like a good ol'boy.

 

[SMS]

wtf does bigotry have to do with cleansing the gene pool of savages who behave much worse than nazi germany ever did, not on the scale of course, but brutality of a sort that needs to be put down. kill them, some more pop up, kill them, repeat over and over again. by their definition the "civilized world" united to stop germany, 30 or so million died during the process, but it did end. and to quote bob dylan now the germans have god on their side. you will never talk a person to death, you might bore them to death, but peaceful isn't in this equation

Absolutely. Hoist every jihadi and salafi up on pikes for the world to see. No complaint from me. I helped on some level to put more than a few there. I've looked them in the eye. I've smelled their stink, up close.

When it turns into "kill all those mooselimbs" or "screw the innocent ones, if they don't help they're part of the problem" you can count me out. That sh$t isn't going to fly against 25% of the worlds population. It will only exacerbate the problem. We aren't fighting Germany.

 

[lasher]

we need to indoctrinate radicals with this data



and this one

 

[lasher]

Absolutely. Hoist every jihadi and salafi up on pikes for the world to see. No complaint from me. I helped on some level to put more than a few there. I've looked them in the eye. I've smelled their stink, up close.

When it turns into "kill all those mooselimbs" or "screw the innocent ones, if they don't help they're part of the problem" you can count me out. That sh$t isn't going to fly against 25% of the worlds population. It will only exacerbate the problem. We aren't fighting Germany.

i didn't say kill innocents, kill the rabid ones. and you're correct, we're not fighting germany, we face a much greater evil than germany

 

[JD8]

What's the number then sport?

1.6 Billion. How many of them are bad actors and what's the percentage? I guarantee you it's a small fraction.

I don't think we can use the 1.6 billion number as a crutch of tolerant muslims. I've just provided that nobody can name a country that is even in the same ballpark as ours in terms of freedom. Even if they can, there is a significant number of muslims that obviously aren't interested in any true altruistic behavior currently as the koran won't allow it. They can do as they please in their own country but again, I don't see why we have to tolerate it here.

 

[JD8]

No, man. Not even remotely close to what I said. It's not acceptable. It flat says "there will be no compulsion in religion". Throwing gays off roofs, etc, what they're doing to Christians in Egypt and elsewhere is all based on compulsion and is unacceptable from what I know. And again, before we go down that road, I'm not a scholar of it or anything, that's what I was taught and that's my own interpretation of it as well.

And concerning your statement on not seeing the logic, I don't follow Islam, I'm not a Muslim but that argument will always eventually boil down to faith. I'm very familiar with how you feel about that from other religious threads. I think in all three religions it's more a matter of people twisting the faith, not the faith twisting people, but that's just me.

I get it and that fair, but all I'm going to say is that you just referenced the koran, it's pretty descriptive in what it wants done to gays, non-believers, etc is it not? Its just that it seems that the "good" ones choose not to follow it. To me, that's faith twisting people.

 

[doctorjj]

What's the number then sport?

1.6 Billion. How many of them are bad actors and what's the percentage? I guarantee you it's a small fraction.

I've already posted links to several polls, and there are many more, that show it's not just a tiny fringe element of Muslims that condone violence and terrorism, or that believe in honor killings or that death is the appropriate punishment for apostasy, etc, etc. Do some research. Don't just spout that liberal, politically correct BS.

 

[Dale00]

It is possible to study something and to get it wrong.

I will say that people are precious and valuable. Individuals and even families and communities can be peaceful and yet misleading in regards to a system of thought. I would characterize such experiences as being of Islam in it's restive state. It is an error associated with having too short of a time frame and too narrow of a view. One can study Mount St. Helens and insist that based on personal experience it is entirely benign and a safe and a beautiful place to live.

 

[sanjuro893]

It is possible to study something and to get it wrong.

I will say that people are precious and valuable. Individuals and even families and communities can be peaceful and yet misleading in regards to a system of thought. I would characterize such experiences as being of Islam in it's restive state. It is an error associated with having too short of a time frame and too narrow of a view. One can study Mount St. Helens and insist that based on personal experience it is entirely benign and a safe and a beautiful place to live.

Of course! I could absolutely be dead wrong about all of this. That being said, I'll trust my own experiences with that culture and faith and the people I've met over some folks who lump them into one giant group, and their only contact with Muslims is when they see them from a distance in WalMart.