Trump cell phone use / Clinton email server abuse

[SMS]

The issue at hand is the creation of federal records. The procedures for the creation, handling, and storage of those records are codified in federal law.

By law, electronic messages that are created and received in the course of conducting government business are considered federal records, even if done on a personal cell phone via a personal account. This includes texts, tweets, and instant messages. There is currently no “system” to accurately capture and archive all of that info from a personal phone...hence most federal agencies just prohibit the use of personal phones for government business. It’s easier.

Then there is the security issue.

If it wasn’t cool for H or O to do it, it’s not cool for Trump to be doing it either.

 

[Dumpstick]

That's just it. Nobody had a problem with O doing it. There was a buzz around first, but it died down. Nothing came of it.
AFAIK, O continued using his personal phone to conduct business during his entire reign.

Now that there is a non-D in office, the MSM has rediscovered their reason to exist. Allover suddenly, things that were ignored are front page material.

 

[SMS]

But folks had issues with Hillary using a personal email and server? Personal electronic communication is personal electronic communication regardless of the scale.

Ok, people didn’t care that O did it but folks have more recently been very breathless about Hillary’s use of it. I’m just looking for some consistency, which is rare for apologists on both sides of the aisle.

 

[Dumpstick]

Mrs Clinton was not POTUS.
How's that for consistency ?

 

[Hobbes]

Obama used a blackberry until 2012 that had a custom OS loaded on it by WH IT staff.
The custom OS made it impossible to forward email.

It's possible that similar modifications have been made to the Trump phone too, I don't know.
When John Kelly moved from DHS to the WH he brought his .gov issue phone with him but complained that it hadn't worked for months.
Turned out the phone had been hacked.
They gave him a new phone and raised security precaution levels.

Lately unknown actors have been deploying these stingray devices in the DC area.
https://www.cyberscoop.com/stingrays-dc-area-dhs-ron-wyden/

 

[SMS]

Mrs Clinton was not POTUS.
How's that for consistency ?

She was a government employee. The rules are the same.

 

[SMS]

Obama used a blackberry until 2012 that had a custom OS loaded on it by WH IT staff.
The custom OS made it impossible to forward email.

It's possible that similar modifications have been made to the Trump phone too, I don't know.
When John Kelly moved from DHS to the WH he brought his .gov issue phone with him but complained that it hadn't worked for months.
Turned out the phone had been hacked.
They gave him a new phone and raised security precaution levels.

Lately unknown actors have been deploying these stingray devices in the DC area.
https://www.cyberscoop.com/stingrays-dc-area-dhs-ron-wyden/

Forwarding of emails is actually required under federal law when dealing with personal communications devices and email accounts. If the POTUS, or any federal employee, uses a personal email account to email someone else’s personal account on official business, it must be forwarded and/or cc’d to an official email account so that it can be properly archived.

 

[gerhard1]

But folks had issues with Hillary using a personal email and server? Personal electronic communication is personal electronic communication regardless of the scale.

Ok, people didn’t care that O did it but folks have more recently been very breathless about Hillary’s use of it. I’m just looking for some consistency, which is rare for apologists on both sides of the aisle.

The media didn't care, largely because The Holy and Anointed One did it. What ever he did was good and noble; always done with absolutely the purest of motives.

 

[Hobbes]

https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/data-center/probable-modifications-to-obamas-blackberry/

 

[SMS]

The media didn't care, largely because The Holy and Anointed One did it. What ever he did was good and noble; always done with absolutely the purest of motives.

So, regardless of the media or the left’s position, what’s your position? Does the POTUS and other senior administration officials have to comply with federal law regarding the proper creation, administration and cataloging of federal records protection of classified and/or sensitive information?

It’s not a trick question and it has nothing to do with political affiliation of the employee.