So the 8th Amendment doesn’t apply to anyone charged with 1st Degree Murder?
Good to know.
Good to know.
That language makes me think they are basically worthless. "Sure, we'll cover you if the cops and DA think it was a righteous shoot. If they think you were a little free-wheeling, no matter what the circumstances and your state of mind were, well ... cha-ching mother****er!! We made bank on all those premiums you paid in to us.Have a nice day!"
Aren't most insurance companies about the same?
You pay us all those premiums and we'll cover anything, you know, except a loss of some sort. If you suffer a loss, we're really sorry about your luck, but you're on your own.
I taught OSDA on and off for years starting when it came out in the 90's. I would start the class by telling them that if they thought the class was going to make them John Wayne or Charles Bronson, they were in the wrong class.
The only good gunfight is the one you avoid.
You have to be in fear of your life or great bodily injury. You should use your gun as a last resort to defend your life or the life of another.
Most important, you have to be able to articulate to the police the threat and that you have no other option but to use deadly force. We spent a LOT of time on this.
Although there is no duty to retreat, anytime you use a gun, nothing good can happen, only lesser degrees of bad.
When the threat is over, stop shooting.
The end.
The only good gunfight is the one you avoid.
You have to be in fear of your life or great bodily injury. You should use your gun as a last resort to defend your life or the life of another.
Most important, you have to be able to articulate to the police the threat and that you have no other option but to use deadly force. We spent a LOT of time on this.
Although there is no duty to retreat, anytime you use a gun, nothing good can happen, only lesser degrees of bad.
When the threat is over, stop shooting.
The end.
That's what I'm thinking too.That language makes me think they are basically worthless. "Sure, we'll cover you if the cops and DA think it was a righteous shoot. If they think you were a little free-wheeling, no matter what the circumstances and your state of mind were, well ... cha-ching mother****er!! We made bank on all those premiums you paid in to us.
Oh yeah ... Like that commercial says "they are in the business of keeping your money" ...
Yep. I swear as God is my witness, some of ... Let me rephrase that ... A LOT of the people I met while I taught made me really, REALLY grateful that most of them were gonna take their gun home, stick it back in the nightstand drawer they pulled it out of (where it had been since they bought it "for protection") and never touch it again.
I drank like a fish those 2 years.
And, I would pound it in their head all day. Of course "Uncle Leroy" was in the class and he said "his dog was his family and if anyone tried to steal his dog, he would shoot them". I told him repeatedly, in front of 29 witnesses NOT to do that and it fell on deaf ears. I'm sure you had those people in your class too.
Oh yeah ...
My personal favorite was the old man who "had forgotten more about guns than any GIRL will ever be able to figure out"
(and yes, that is a quote
) managed to get a .357SIG bullet in a Glock magazine. BACKWARDS. Yes. You read that right -- he managed to finger **** that bullet into the mag with the primer facing OUT ... 
It took me a while -- and I "might" have nicked the edge of his mag with my pocketknife
-- but I FINALLY got it out of there. And he didn't even thank me. 
There were 3 good old boys at the end of the range just standing there watching the show, kinda slackjawed, like OMG did that just REALLY happen?? Lol They waved me down to where they were and asked me if that kinda stuff happened very often. They were at the spot where I usually stood to keep an eye on the line so we chitty-chatted in between firing.
By the time we were all done and handing out certificates they ALL said "No wonder you guys drink!"
Btw, the old man who didn't know how to load his magazine?? Yeah ... About him -- he swept the line with a loaded gun. Had a question and turned around in a circle looking for an instructor to ask. I don't even know how many times we would say "if you need to leave your station PUT YOUR GUN DOWN. If you need to do ANYTHING that you are not facing downrange PUT YOUR GUN DOWN. If you need to do ANYTHING other than stand at your station facing downrange PUT YOUR GUN DOWN."
I ran over, snatched his gun outta his hand, and yelled at him that if he did that again I was gonna kick him outta class. To be honest, he scared the **** outta me because ... Well ... He wasn't the most attentive guy out there. Anyway, he told me I couldn't do that. And looked at Dean (the other instructor) like he expected Dean to back him up. Dean looked him dead in the eye and said "Patti, what do you wanna do with this joker?" I nearly fell out.
I told the old man that I could handle just about any "mistake" except for the ones that put other people on the range in danger and that, if he wanted to come take a couple of personal classes from me I would waive the fee, and we would let him return and finish the class another time but that for now he needed to pack up his **** and leave. And there would be no certificate for him today. OMG!! I thought the old guy was gonna shoot me for a second. He left. Never called about those lessons. My guess is he never got his license, either. Oh jeez ... I need a drink now. Lol
I got some warning points here because of an argument on a thread where people were saying that it was perfectly fine to shoot someone who was trying to steal a Nazi flag on someone's property. It was amazing how many people on this very board seemed okay with the idea that shooting to kill over a flag was a justifiable thing.
The comment above proves you know not much about the Bill Of Rights or the constitution.
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