Federal Tactical Flite-Control 00 Buck = Kinda Amazing

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TallPrairie

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I'm shaking out an 18.5" Mossberg 12 ga pump shotgun. I got the chance to test the gun with some different rounds at 10 yards distance.

Intriguing results from the Federal Tactical Low Recoil 00 Buck, 9 pellet (LE13200), 2 3/4" shells with the Flite-Control wad that is intended to tighten up the shot pattern. Recoil was indeed manageable. It shot to the sights, and the patterns were uniform and very tight - squash ball-sized groups at 10 yards. Basically it was just coring big single chunks out of the paper target.

(I had a great pic of a target ready to show you but unfortunately this forum doesn't seem to let members attach JPEG thumbnails anymore -- it says even my tiniest photo size "exceeds forum limit" now. That wasn't true two weeks ago. :confused: But, I digress.)

This ammo is impressive. It does exactly what it is designed to do. The Flite-Control tech is so effective at keeping the shot together that I suspect some would find it too tight. You are practically shooting a slug at close and medium ranges -- but with less recoil and less risk of overpenetration. On the other hand, if you had to use the shotgun defensively out to 25-30 yards, a well-placed shot with this ammo would still keep the entire pattern of buck on target, while other buckshot rounds would fling strays out to the sides.

I also tried some Remington #1 Buck 2 3/4" shells -- full power, sixteen pellet load. It kicked my butt! I need to replace the Mossberg's over-long factory stock with something more in the 12" to 13" LOP range. But this was clearly harder recoiling ammo. Pattern was a big difference from the Flite-Control buck -- the pellets were uniformly distributed at 10 yards across the width of the target's torso. Good, uniform pattern; just a lot looser.

Similar results with some basic birdshot skeet loads I tried in the Mossy. I got even, torso-sized patterns at 10 yards.

A man's got to know his limitations, in the words of Harry Callahan. I doubt I can train effectively with full-power buck in this pump shotgun. Gonna stick with the reduced-recoil. (And get a shorter stock.) The Federal Tactical load appears to be excellent quality. Whether I standardize on it depends on what I conclude about the desirability of a very tight pattern in a HD shotgun.
 

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They are a good load, but they are also a hair longer (before firing) than most 2.75" shells. That means they don't fit as well into some shell caddies and they also sometimes only fit one less in the tube than other shells.

But yes, overall they are an awesome buckshot load.
 

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Just from an engineering perspective, the stuff is an accomplishment.

Good tip about shell length, ninefan. For the record, my Mossberg is 5+1 and there was no problem stuffing five of the Federal Tactical in the tube.
 

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Once I found the federal flitecontrol wad, I haven't loaded any other ammo where 00 buck would be appropriate.

Here's a youtube video showing the results of it from 10-50 yards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHIrUYRiBk

This ammo is the antithesis of the idea of pointing a shotgun in a general direction and pulling the trigger; yes, I know, it is a very stupid idea and without merit but it persists among those with no training. For the first 10 yards, this effectively IS a slug load as it's still, mostly, in the shot cup. From what I can tell, it is choke independent as to the tight pattern.
 

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