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dennishoddy said:
Simple solution all the illegals will know.......back into your parking spot so the tag is not visible.
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Read the links I posted to LawDog's blog (he's a west Texas deputy sheriff). He mentions, and links to sources, putting readers in squad cars so they can scan automatically while on patrol:
What you may not have been aware of -- I wasn't -- is the new designs which are intended for mobile use. In other words, they are mounted in/on patrol cars.

Impressive technology. The infra-red cameras are capable of reading license plates at triple digit speeds AND across up to four lanes of traffic AND at angles which I would not have believed capable, at up to 1,500 different license plates per minute per eight hour shift. Automatically.
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Remember, that article is better than ten years old; technology has advanced since then.

Now, imagine those queries including not just a plate number, but a GPS location. And stuff the whole query into a database.

Feel like being tracked in your every movement? It's coming...with all the attendant potential for abuse (see above).
 
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Google and Amazon already track your every move, but if the plate is blocked by a wall or vehicle behind it, are there RIFD'S imbedding in the plates to allow casual scanning by LEO?
 
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A) Google and Amazon don't have the power to arrest or shoot people.
B) No, but equip enough cars, and you'll be able to get an awful lot of the cars on the road. Note that they have the ability to read across four lanes of traffic, and if they're reading 1500 plates/minute, it obviously doesn't require more than a fraction of a second of exposure. Put them on signposts like the plate-readers on the turnpikes and you can get a lot more.
 
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They already have plate blockers on the market. I travel turnpikes weekly and constantly see vehicles blowing through them with no repercussions other than the occasional OHP sitting there waiting for someone to do that, and its rare. When they have one stopped, a dozen blow through.
 
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I thought the new license plates and increased fees were supposed to have all the insurance problems solved. That's why the new plates were supposed to be issued right. The problem is that they get insurance and then drop it, though they said that was not going to happen any more because the companies are "supposed" to notify the gov if insurance is dropped. Looks like that isn't working either.

So a scanner is going to do what, allow the government to see what is where and then if there is a problem they can sit on it till the owner shows up. There is no need for a scanner to know if the person has insurance or not, scanning the plate will not tell them that information unless it's already in the system hence the ticket should have been in the mail long before the scanner goes through. Unless that scanner has a magic way of talking to the person and asking for proof of insurance it will be worthless for it's intended purpose and will only be used for catching vehicles that are due to be impounded and people who have warrants or tracking where vehicles are at.
 
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NightShade said:
I thought the new license plates and increased fees were supposed to have all the insurance problems solved. That's why the new plates were supposed to be issued right. The problem is that they get insurance and then drop it, though they said that was not going to happen any more because the companies are "supposed" to notify the gov if insurance is dropped. Looks like that isn't working either.

So a scanner is going to do what, allow the government to see what is where and then if there is a problem they can sit on it till the owner shows up. There is no need for a scanner to know if the person has insurance or not, scanning the plate will not tell them that information unless it's already in the system hence the ticket should have been in the mail long before the scanner goes through. Unless that scanner has a magic way of talking to the person and asking for proof of insurance it will be worthless for it's intended purpose and will only be used for catching vehicles that are due to be impounded and people who have warrants or tracking where vehicles are at.
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And stalking. Don't forget the stalking.
 
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There is no need for a scanner to know if the person has insurance or not, scanning the plate will not tell them that information unless it's already in the system hence the ticket should have been in the mail long before the scanner goes through

NightShade wrote the above.

NOT so fast.
Maybe the car was dropped off the insurance because it is under repair and they are driving a different vehicle.

I have dropped vehicles off my insurance and rebuilt the engine and trans and suspension sometimes projects take longer than we expect.
No need having many vehicles insured.
Currently I have 4 insured vehicles and one has not moved in 2.5 years.
But that one cost me chump change to insure it.. like $19.50 for 6 months.
 
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Defcon Shooter said:
https://www.rt.com/usa/license-scanners-private-database-046/
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That's only if the agency shares data. OCPD uses license plate readers for stolen vehicles. It's on a private server that does NOT backfeed the info back to the ALPR company. The info gets deleted off after 30 days and does not go anywhere else. I'm amazed that ya'll aren't more concerned with private industry than LEO having this access. This info can be collected by anyone at anytime, much like Google Earth. There are companies that do have cameras mounted in locations and on vehicles collecting that data, and selling it much like the article describles, with absolutely no oversight. Some agencies do, maybe unintentionally, as they may use the cloud or the company's servers to mitigate costs. I mean lets be honest, if big brother wanted to track us, they can and would without using ALPR's.
 
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