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05/15/2022 Another Mass Shooting. This time at a California Church
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<blockquote data-quote="wawazat" data-source="post: 3780068" data-attributes="member: 35603"><p>Ive made a similar comment in the past. Wipe them from public knowledge. If their name was mentioned in a local paper when they graduated kindergarten, wipe it. It isn't the primary motivator for all of them, but the few that want to finally be "seen" would get the exact opposite and would have their name stricken from every ledger available to the public.</p><p></p><p>The video game argument, I believe, is valid in some instances and not in others. I grew up playing violent video games, but I also worked on a farm and hunted. Although it is not comparable to anyone with LE or military experience, hunting and running cattle exposes a person to a level of violence and Darwinism not experienced by the average person today. Nature and nurture both also play a huge role in what kind of impact our environment will have on us.</p><p></p><p>I have two heavy concerns with red flag laws and the way they would seem to be implemented. The first is it being weaponized to cause vindictive harm. The other is indirectly discouraging people from seeking mental health assistance out of fear their firearms could be taken. Without having an opportunity to represent/defend yourself against unlawful confiscation, how does a person keep their most fundamental rights against an overreaching government? If you give people the opportunity to represent/defend themselves, how do you act quickly enough to do any good?</p><p></p><p>My personal opinion is that we desperately need a readily available mental health system again. This is evident in the homeless population and prevalence of people feeling they have no other choice but to act out in the most violent and reprehensible manners. If someone was reported as being a danger to themselves or others, they could go in for a 2 (randomly selected number) day evaluation. Their firearms could stay in their home and secured (no confiscation), nothing would land on their legal record or penalties imposed (no violation of due process). They would just be evaluated by medical professionals. If further care was deemed necessary for the well being of the patient and for those around them, they would present a case to review boards to evaluate the method, duration, frequency of ongoing interaction and care.</p><p></p><p>My other thought is that humans, at our most basic animal levels, are not designed to live in these massive metroplexes with massive condo towers piled on top of each other. We are social, but we thrive on much smaller and more meaningful social circles. When we see hundreds or thousands of unknown faces every day, it makes it more difficult or less incentivized to know anyone on a meaningfully deep level. We get disconnected and isolated in a crowd of people which can be exacerbated by underlying mental illness/difficulties. It also cheapens the value we see in the people around us. It can be similar to having a couple of prime ribeyes in the freezer and being excited to eat them or having nothing but prime ribeyes in the freezer and being tired of even thinking about having to eat them all. I also think a lot of these woke movements are a symptom of population density approaching or surpassing harmful levels. As the crowd gets bigger, it takes more and more shocking qualities/actions to stand out in the crowd. Next thing you know, we are making up completely new and unfounded labels to attach to ourselves to try and find something that separates each of us from the masses.</p><p></p><p>Our society is ill, but the path of least resistance leads us further down the path to chronic illness. I am all but certain the treatment is inevitable and the longer it is delayed, the more unpleasant it will be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wawazat, post: 3780068, member: 35603"] Ive made a similar comment in the past. Wipe them from public knowledge. If their name was mentioned in a local paper when they graduated kindergarten, wipe it. It isn't the primary motivator for all of them, but the few that want to finally be "seen" would get the exact opposite and would have their name stricken from every ledger available to the public. The video game argument, I believe, is valid in some instances and not in others. I grew up playing violent video games, but I also worked on a farm and hunted. Although it is not comparable to anyone with LE or military experience, hunting and running cattle exposes a person to a level of violence and Darwinism not experienced by the average person today. Nature and nurture both also play a huge role in what kind of impact our environment will have on us. I have two heavy concerns with red flag laws and the way they would seem to be implemented. The first is it being weaponized to cause vindictive harm. The other is indirectly discouraging people from seeking mental health assistance out of fear their firearms could be taken. Without having an opportunity to represent/defend yourself against unlawful confiscation, how does a person keep their most fundamental rights against an overreaching government? If you give people the opportunity to represent/defend themselves, how do you act quickly enough to do any good? My personal opinion is that we desperately need a readily available mental health system again. This is evident in the homeless population and prevalence of people feeling they have no other choice but to act out in the most violent and reprehensible manners. If someone was reported as being a danger to themselves or others, they could go in for a 2 (randomly selected number) day evaluation. Their firearms could stay in their home and secured (no confiscation), nothing would land on their legal record or penalties imposed (no violation of due process). They would just be evaluated by medical professionals. If further care was deemed necessary for the well being of the patient and for those around them, they would present a case to review boards to evaluate the method, duration, frequency of ongoing interaction and care. My other thought is that humans, at our most basic animal levels, are not designed to live in these massive metroplexes with massive condo towers piled on top of each other. We are social, but we thrive on much smaller and more meaningful social circles. When we see hundreds or thousands of unknown faces every day, it makes it more difficult or less incentivized to know anyone on a meaningfully deep level. We get disconnected and isolated in a crowd of people which can be exacerbated by underlying mental illness/difficulties. It also cheapens the value we see in the people around us. It can be similar to having a couple of prime ribeyes in the freezer and being excited to eat them or having nothing but prime ribeyes in the freezer and being tired of even thinking about having to eat them all. I also think a lot of these woke movements are a symptom of population density approaching or surpassing harmful levels. As the crowd gets bigger, it takes more and more shocking qualities/actions to stand out in the crowd. Next thing you know, we are making up completely new and unfounded labels to attach to ourselves to try and find something that separates each of us from the masses. Our society is ill, but the path of least resistance leads us further down the path to chronic illness. I am all but certain the treatment is inevitable and the longer it is delayed, the more unpleasant it will be. [/QUOTE]
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