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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 861324" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>The original question was "what is the best gun platform" </p><p>not for survival.</p><p>My vote is for the 12 ga. You post some valid questions about the 12ga platform, but the "best gun platform" has to be the shotty.</p><p>With the new shotgun technology like Hevi-Shot, it takes a short range round in #4 out another 20 yds of effectivness with much greater penetration because of the hardness of the shot. Keeping it round maintains a tighter group at longer ranges.</p><p></p><p>Slugs are not the "punkin balls" that most are familiar with. The newest have sabot jackets with velocities aproaching 2000fps. That makes a 200+ yd shot really reasonable. </p><p>If the zombies attack and your in an urban enviroment, where 90% of the action is door to door, I'll take the 12 ga.</p><p>Center fire snipers would take care of the long range requirments.</p><p>In the "best gun platform" the 12 ga can take quail and everything up to and including the biggest game in North America and most of the world.</p><p>As a Vet from 1971, I can assure you that in a jungle enviroment, the 12ga is the prefered weapon for me when fire fights can take place at 50 foot ranges. </p><p>00 buck works really well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 861324, member: 5412"] The original question was "what is the best gun platform" not for survival. My vote is for the 12 ga. You post some valid questions about the 12ga platform, but the "best gun platform" has to be the shotty. With the new shotgun technology like Hevi-Shot, it takes a short range round in #4 out another 20 yds of effectivness with much greater penetration because of the hardness of the shot. Keeping it round maintains a tighter group at longer ranges. Slugs are not the "punkin balls" that most are familiar with. The newest have sabot jackets with velocities aproaching 2000fps. That makes a 200+ yd shot really reasonable. If the zombies attack and your in an urban enviroment, where 90% of the action is door to door, I'll take the 12 ga. Center fire snipers would take care of the long range requirments. In the "best gun platform" the 12 ga can take quail and everything up to and including the biggest game in North America and most of the world. As a Vet from 1971, I can assure you that in a jungle enviroment, the 12ga is the prefered weapon for me when fire fights can take place at 50 foot ranges. 00 buck works really well. [/QUOTE]
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