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<blockquote data-quote="rc508pir" data-source="post: 3124840" data-attributes="member: 40091"><p>I didnt say that I shot anyone with 380. Shot a few with 9mm hp, but not with 380.</p><p></p><p>The point about expansion was that people think that is what actually causes damage to tissue and its not</p><p></p><p>As far as penetration for that load you are referencing doesn't mean anything really. Not without bone, organs or clothing. I have seen a gel test with 357 gold dot (gel dummy I mentioned) pass through a leather jacket (center mass by the way) then deflect off the sternum, travel along the ribs and out the lower rear of the gel dummy. So it can happen with any round.</p><p></p><p>"Now when you speak of energy, where is the critical point to which damage is done. Can you define it? Because it's not linear."</p><p>Not sure what you're asking there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rc508pir, post: 3124840, member: 40091"] I didnt say that I shot anyone with 380. Shot a few with 9mm hp, but not with 380. The point about expansion was that people think that is what actually causes damage to tissue and its not As far as penetration for that load you are referencing doesn't mean anything really. Not without bone, organs or clothing. I have seen a gel test with 357 gold dot (gel dummy I mentioned) pass through a leather jacket (center mass by the way) then deflect off the sternum, travel along the ribs and out the lower rear of the gel dummy. So it can happen with any round. "Now when you speak of energy, where is the critical point to which damage is done. Can you define it? Because it's not linear." Not sure what you're asking there. [/QUOTE]
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