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<blockquote data-quote="avtomatkalashnikov47" data-source="post: 3445897" data-attributes="member: 41545"><p>i have made plenty of things with a 3d printer i would say are useful. ar & ak pistol grips, handguards, and stocks for buffer tubes. i have also made magazines. i have only had the chance to test out the ak magazine and it worked fine. absolutely perfect as a matter of a fact. the real issue with making magazines is acquiring springs. i tried to make my own tool for winding music wire into springs and failed horribly at making my own ak magazine springs. supposed to wind them into form then bake them at like 500 degrees for a hour or fire & oil harden them to retain the springyness. anyhow. it is not a strong material at all, and i think it is over exaggerated. i had a ender 3 pro with all the upgrades under the sun. i even had printed with carbon fiber and petg not just pla. i never did get a glock or ar15 frame to work right. very very close, but not quite right. i could get all the parts to fit, but it was like something just was not to spec exactly right. i mean i had to barely file or sand some holes every time anyhow and ect to even get it to the point it would be at but.</p><p></p><p>i really do not think you should get a 3-d printer expecting to be able to make a gun. there is polymer 80%s that are better and stronger material. due to the nature of FDM printing and the seam line it will always be somewhat weak. sure you can re-inforce it. epoxys and other types of bonding agents, but i do not think thats well suited for receivers. i mean, sure it CAN work, but why? why spend a week or 2 weeks, just hours and hours and hours of trial and error trying to make something work for a subpar terrible quality end product? why not get something or make something that will actually last? dont say - well you can replace it.</p><p></p><p>do you know how long it takes to go from no receiver to a actual working receiver? about 2-3 days of leaving a 3d printer running for a ar15 lower. it isnt practical. then you have to probably spend a full day just cleaning it up, doing light sanding, small round tail filing of holes to make all the parts fit. it isnt practical it isnt strong enough and it does not make sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>theres plenty of things you can make though. they are nice to have around sure. definitely. but i feel like they are a waste of money.</p><p></p><p>even the magazines are subpar quality. yes they will work, but just the nature of 3d printed plastics is fragile.</p><p></p><p></p><p>here is a 7.62x39 ak magazine, a glock 19 magazine & a ar-15 magazine i made -</p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/QxPlQe9.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>i made a few copies of all of them, but i figured i would show both sides of what they look like.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/0B66OjU.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>So i have not actually tested the AR-15 magazines, nor the glock magazines, but i have springs for them and they seem to fit rounds and feed just fine so i have no doubt they will work.</p><p></p><p>glock 19 magazine assembly - next to one that is completed with a spring. </p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/FJbKh0w.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>you can make anything with a 3-d printer really just about.</p><p></p><p>i made a halloween mask, a fridge magnet of the H&k LOGO, a paperweight of a skull & a model replica of the Sword fish from the anime cowboy bebop-</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Mm6ioE2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>like i said , i tried and tried all different materials and ways to print the guns and never could get one to work right. im most likely going to destroy these glock 26/27 lowers eventually as they are way out of spec. i even got the rails to make them work. i had all the parts and everything to build one. i eventually just got a polymer 80 and it worked perfect the first time. 3d printing is a strange process and you would have to see a video of how its done. that one glock lower i left all the support material attached to show how it comes off the print table.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/l82aNDU.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>i also made a ak magazine loader. sucks it only can load 10 rounds at a time you ram in there, but it works good.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/0oMw54U.jpeg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>i have actually tested the ak magazines in different colors and varietys of types of plastics and they work fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Save your money. i wouldnt get a 3d printer if you expect to make alot of gun stuff. its just not strong enough and they print out of spec way to often. it is not worth the trouble or the money. that is why i sold my printer. it was way to much of a headache.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="avtomatkalashnikov47, post: 3445897, member: 41545"] i have made plenty of things with a 3d printer i would say are useful. ar & ak pistol grips, handguards, and stocks for buffer tubes. i have also made magazines. i have only had the chance to test out the ak magazine and it worked fine. absolutely perfect as a matter of a fact. the real issue with making magazines is acquiring springs. i tried to make my own tool for winding music wire into springs and failed horribly at making my own ak magazine springs. supposed to wind them into form then bake them at like 500 degrees for a hour or fire & oil harden them to retain the springyness. anyhow. it is not a strong material at all, and i think it is over exaggerated. i had a ender 3 pro with all the upgrades under the sun. i even had printed with carbon fiber and petg not just pla. i never did get a glock or ar15 frame to work right. very very close, but not quite right. i could get all the parts to fit, but it was like something just was not to spec exactly right. i mean i had to barely file or sand some holes every time anyhow and ect to even get it to the point it would be at but. i really do not think you should get a 3-d printer expecting to be able to make a gun. there is polymer 80%s that are better and stronger material. due to the nature of FDM printing and the seam line it will always be somewhat weak. sure you can re-inforce it. epoxys and other types of bonding agents, but i do not think thats well suited for receivers. i mean, sure it CAN work, but why? why spend a week or 2 weeks, just hours and hours and hours of trial and error trying to make something work for a subpar terrible quality end product? why not get something or make something that will actually last? dont say - well you can replace it. do you know how long it takes to go from no receiver to a actual working receiver? about 2-3 days of leaving a 3d printer running for a ar15 lower. it isnt practical. then you have to probably spend a full day just cleaning it up, doing light sanding, small round tail filing of holes to make all the parts fit. it isnt practical it isnt strong enough and it does not make sense. theres plenty of things you can make though. they are nice to have around sure. definitely. but i feel like they are a waste of money. even the magazines are subpar quality. yes they will work, but just the nature of 3d printed plastics is fragile. here is a 7.62x39 ak magazine, a glock 19 magazine & a ar-15 magazine i made - [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/QxPlQe9.jpg[/IMG] i made a few copies of all of them, but i figured i would show both sides of what they look like. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0B66OjU.jpg[/IMG] So i have not actually tested the AR-15 magazines, nor the glock magazines, but i have springs for them and they seem to fit rounds and feed just fine so i have no doubt they will work. glock 19 magazine assembly - next to one that is completed with a spring. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/FJbKh0w.jpg[/IMG] you can make anything with a 3-d printer really just about. i made a halloween mask, a fridge magnet of the H&k LOGO, a paperweight of a skull & a model replica of the Sword fish from the anime cowboy bebop- [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Mm6ioE2.jpg[/IMG] like i said , i tried and tried all different materials and ways to print the guns and never could get one to work right. im most likely going to destroy these glock 26/27 lowers eventually as they are way out of spec. i even got the rails to make them work. i had all the parts and everything to build one. i eventually just got a polymer 80 and it worked perfect the first time. 3d printing is a strange process and you would have to see a video of how its done. that one glock lower i left all the support material attached to show how it comes off the print table. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/l82aNDU.jpg[/IMG] i also made a ak magazine loader. sucks it only can load 10 rounds at a time you ram in there, but it works good. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0oMw54U.jpeg[/IMG] i have actually tested the ak magazines in different colors and varietys of types of plastics and they work fine. Save your money. i wouldnt get a 3d printer if you expect to make alot of gun stuff. its just not strong enough and they print out of spec way to often. it is not worth the trouble or the money. that is why i sold my printer. it was way to much of a headache. [/QUOTE]
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