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581 people have been shot and killed by police so far in 2017
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<blockquote data-quote="YukonGlocker" data-source="post: 3016605" data-attributes="member: 425"><p>I'm critical and skeptical of all, Trump included. He's not special in any way. Because this is a right-leaning site, with majority right-leaning people, minority opinions and voices will tend to stick out more. It's no different on left-learning sites.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, not at all. He'll have to prove that, and he hasn't. In fact, he's mostly hurt his credibility on that claim.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing wrong with law and order, but those maintaining law and order have to indeed follow law, order, and the constitution as well. That's a delicate balancing act. Trump inciting violence against arrested people (which haven't been proven guilty yet) does nothing to maintain law and order; in fact, it creates an environment that reinforces disorderly and unlawful actions (by everyone involved). That is, if law and order is his goal, he's setting us up for failure. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Gary Johnson. He was a terrible candidate for POTUS, but somehow that was better than any of the other candidates. Hopefully by 2018 and 2020 the democratic and republican parties will have burned long enough that some reasonable candidates can make it through our big-money, bought-and-sold political system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YukonGlocker, post: 3016605, member: 425"] I'm critical and skeptical of all, Trump included. He's not special in any way. Because this is a right-leaning site, with majority right-leaning people, minority opinions and voices will tend to stick out more. It's no different on left-learning sites. Nope, not at all. He'll have to prove that, and he hasn't. In fact, he's mostly hurt his credibility on that claim. Nothing wrong with law and order, but those maintaining law and order have to indeed follow law, order, and the constitution as well. That's a delicate balancing act. Trump inciting violence against arrested people (which haven't been proven guilty yet) does nothing to maintain law and order; in fact, it creates an environment that reinforces disorderly and unlawful actions (by everyone involved). That is, if law and order is his goal, he's setting us up for failure. Gary Johnson. He was a terrible candidate for POTUS, but somehow that was better than any of the other candidates. Hopefully by 2018 and 2020 the democratic and republican parties will have burned long enough that some reasonable candidates can make it through our big-money, bought-and-sold political system. [/QUOTE]
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