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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3206901" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>The problem is that your "data" are statistics that have been manipulated. If you look here:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/03/homeland-security-produces-first-estimate-of-foreign-visitors-to-u-s-who-overstay-deadline-to-leave/" target="_blank">http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/03/homeland-security-produces-first-estimate-of-foreign-visitors-to-u-s-who-overstay-deadline-to-leave/</a></p><p></p><p>You'll see that of all the Visa overstays, only about 31% of the Visa overstays have any correlation to the Southern border. The rest are from North of America or overseas. Even if you assumed 152,000 overstays from Central and South America every year for 32 years, that still only accounts for 4.9 million of the estimated 11-20 million illegal immigrants in America.</p><p></p><p>Further, the overstays are predominantly entries through airports and seaports. That's 54 million people entering the United States on a Visa per year. So 98.5% of all Visa holders depart on time. If someone overstays their Visa by ONE DAY, that's an overstay and it's added in the total. How many of them have already left whether it's a day, a week or a month late? Funny, you don't see those numbers posted in the media do you? That's because it doesn't fit the narrative.</p><p></p><p>And yet again, no one who's ever been previously deported from the United States is eligible for a Visa. They're denied. So whether they've been apprehended after overstaying a Visa, detained for crossing the border illegally, caught smuggling drugs or humans, arrested for DUI, robbery or murder, THOSE people cross the border illegally. They don't get Visas.</p><p></p><p>The reason I'm "being a prick" is because you're parroting leftist, pro-illegal immigration talking points. They're designed to mislead and create a false narrative. So stop promoting falsehoods under the guise of "statistics". <img src="/images/smilies/rolleyes2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes2" title="Rolleyes2 :rolleyes2" data-shortname=":rolleyes2" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3206901, member: 1132"] The problem is that your "data" are statistics that have been manipulated. If you look here: [URL]http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/03/homeland-security-produces-first-estimate-of-foreign-visitors-to-u-s-who-overstay-deadline-to-leave/[/URL] You'll see that of all the Visa overstays, only about 31% of the Visa overstays have any correlation to the Southern border. The rest are from North of America or overseas. Even if you assumed 152,000 overstays from Central and South America every year for 32 years, that still only accounts for 4.9 million of the estimated 11-20 million illegal immigrants in America. Further, the overstays are predominantly entries through airports and seaports. That's 54 million people entering the United States on a Visa per year. So 98.5% of all Visa holders depart on time. If someone overstays their Visa by ONE DAY, that's an overstay and it's added in the total. How many of them have already left whether it's a day, a week or a month late? Funny, you don't see those numbers posted in the media do you? That's because it doesn't fit the narrative. And yet again, no one who's ever been previously deported from the United States is eligible for a Visa. They're denied. So whether they've been apprehended after overstaying a Visa, detained for crossing the border illegally, caught smuggling drugs or humans, arrested for DUI, robbery or murder, THOSE people cross the border illegally. They don't get Visas. The reason I'm "being a prick" is because you're parroting leftist, pro-illegal immigration talking points. They're designed to mislead and create a false narrative. So stop promoting falsehoods under the guise of "statistics". :rolleyes2 [/QUOTE]
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