Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
ACA OBAMA CARE
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tRidiot" data-source="post: 3419193" data-attributes="member: 9374"><p>Well I can say this much... I know some folks who have this insurance, aka the BCBS on the exchange, end up not getting much if anything in coverage. I don't know all the ins and outs, but...</p><p></p><p>It brings to mind a family I saw last year a number of times. Now this was a man, his wife and their young adult son. When we schedule people, we verify they have current insurance coverage for every visit, or they have to pay cash. These folks, I saw the man maybe... 3 or 4 times. Wife I saw at least that many and several times spent a LONG time with her - like going on an hour or more. Counseling for various stuff, etc. Son I think I saw 2 times, maybe 3.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind, all these were verified insurance current and up to date before and at the time of visits. Wife I had come in to see our counselor multiple times, too.</p><p></p><p>Then they all dropped off the map. Haven't seen them in nearly a year.</p><p></p><p>A few months ago, I get notice from our business office manager and I realize why they're gone - they owe nearly $2,000 in bills to us (actually more like $2500, now that I think about it) among the three. Insurance (again, BCBS) never paid us a single penny for any of their care. Not one. So we had to try to collect from them, of course, they skipped and bailed. I know husband worked in Tulsa as a welder, that much came out. Son, I think worked locally part-time, maybe for WalMart or something. Wife didn't work.</p><p></p><p>But this was a working family, obviously lower end of the income scale from my interactions with them, living in an apartment, subsidized or not, I don't know. But they DID have BCBS, I am assuming it was "exchange coverage" aka "Obamaca/ACA". And BCBS never paid us a dime for all the care we provided. Patients never paid a copay, either, I'll add. Usually people just walk out the door instead of stopping on the way out to pay, or they give a reason they can't pay their copay today, etc. I think with our new system, they're asking them to pay the copay up front.</p><p></p><p>So that's an experience I have with this kind of stuff. My staff and I provided good, quality care, went above and beyond, I tried significantly to help these folks, all three, and we got stiffed for nothing.</p><p></p><p>And this is part of why I'm in the position I am (meaning struggling financially right now). People think it's a racket when their doc 'bills' $150 for a visit - you don't see what we actually COLLECT on that bill, and a lot of the time we collect NOTHING. Usually my collections run... oh, maybe around 50-60% of what we 'bill'? Some months a good bit less.</p><p></p><p><edit> Oh, and when we turn people over to collection, we lose 50% of whatever they manage to collect, as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tRidiot, post: 3419193, member: 9374"] Well I can say this much... I know some folks who have this insurance, aka the BCBS on the exchange, end up not getting much if anything in coverage. I don't know all the ins and outs, but... It brings to mind a family I saw last year a number of times. Now this was a man, his wife and their young adult son. When we schedule people, we verify they have current insurance coverage for every visit, or they have to pay cash. These folks, I saw the man maybe... 3 or 4 times. Wife I saw at least that many and several times spent a LONG time with her - like going on an hour or more. Counseling for various stuff, etc. Son I think I saw 2 times, maybe 3. Keep in mind, all these were verified insurance current and up to date before and at the time of visits. Wife I had come in to see our counselor multiple times, too. Then they all dropped off the map. Haven't seen them in nearly a year. A few months ago, I get notice from our business office manager and I realize why they're gone - they owe nearly $2,000 in bills to us (actually more like $2500, now that I think about it) among the three. Insurance (again, BCBS) never paid us a single penny for any of their care. Not one. So we had to try to collect from them, of course, they skipped and bailed. I know husband worked in Tulsa as a welder, that much came out. Son, I think worked locally part-time, maybe for WalMart or something. Wife didn't work. But this was a working family, obviously lower end of the income scale from my interactions with them, living in an apartment, subsidized or not, I don't know. But they DID have BCBS, I am assuming it was "exchange coverage" aka "Obamaca/ACA". And BCBS never paid us a dime for all the care we provided. Patients never paid a copay, either, I'll add. Usually people just walk out the door instead of stopping on the way out to pay, or they give a reason they can't pay their copay today, etc. I think with our new system, they're asking them to pay the copay up front. So that's an experience I have with this kind of stuff. My staff and I provided good, quality care, went above and beyond, I tried significantly to help these folks, all three, and we got stiffed for nothing. And this is part of why I'm in the position I am (meaning struggling financially right now). People think it's a racket when their doc 'bills' $150 for a visit - you don't see what we actually COLLECT on that bill, and a lot of the time we collect NOTHING. Usually my collections run... oh, maybe around 50-60% of what we 'bill'? Some months a good bit less. <edit> Oh, and when we turn people over to collection, we lose 50% of whatever they manage to collect, as well. [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
ACA OBAMA CARE
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom