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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3551164" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>If you think "helping" someone who is being attacked is a good idea in today's world, you are asking to go to jail.</p><p></p><p>cops aren't your friends, lawyers aren't your friends, the state isn't your friend, judges aren't your friends.</p><p></p><p>don't go to jail and ruin your life for someone else. if you see someone being attacked, call police. let them be tried for whatever happens; believe you me, they have a MUCH better chance of fighting the state than you do.</p><p></p><p>any politician encouraging public involvement is literally baiting people into jail time. don't do it. there's no reason to defend women anymore. they did this.</p><p></p><p>either everyone realizes america is already f'ed up and there's nothing to save, so we start over, or you go to jail for doing the right thing. there is no other option at this point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: to expand on this, i think it's very telling that if you've ever seen video of public accidents/attacks in china, you will often see people continually just simply avoid whoever is in need of help.</p><p></p><p>this is because dealing with the authoritarian state is a dice game, and the risk vs reward simply isn't enough to motivate individual wills. there is also the reality of just about everything in an urban environment being captured on film, and keeping yourself off any recording is always better than having to deal with the state because you were spotted when an accident occurred.</p><p></p><p>there is no doubt a large correlation between the pro surveillance state and the "go ahead and help out when you witness crimes that we do nothing to prosecute!" logic that coincides with the states ability to put whoever, whenever in a position that is deemed in the wrong.</p><p></p><p>this is the future of america, and we're already seeing it. what's worse, like the flloyd case currently underway, is when help arrives groups of people THEN will try to verbally intervene and immediately act like they had the ability to save the person, while instead they stood there doing nothing until actual helped arrived, only to criticize and troll them.</p><p></p><p>but soon that will be taken away as well. in britain (which has 2nd most state owned cameras per population), they use the surveillance state to monitor speech.</p><p></p><p>so say you witness a black man beating an elder asian woman. you get involved. you physically confront, attempt to subdue, possibly fight and use potentially lethal force against a black man. the state arrives and the police thank you for doing your citizens duty. you are let go and feel good about your good deed.</p><p></p><p>but upon state's review of the footage during hearing on the incident, it is noted that you told the black man to "calm down, boy!" repeatedly referring to him as a racial slur. now you are guilty of a crime and a fine has been levied with possible warrants attached because now you are deemed a possible extremists a weapons check is now valid.</p><p></p><p>the insults being hurled at chauvin is a perfect example. people in america feel they are free to use this threatening speech in public, being recorded. but it's only a matter of time. those worms are not going back in that can.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3551164, member: 45524"] If you think "helping" someone who is being attacked is a good idea in today's world, you are asking to go to jail. cops aren't your friends, lawyers aren't your friends, the state isn't your friend, judges aren't your friends. don't go to jail and ruin your life for someone else. if you see someone being attacked, call police. let them be tried for whatever happens; believe you me, they have a MUCH better chance of fighting the state than you do. any politician encouraging public involvement is literally baiting people into jail time. don't do it. there's no reason to defend women anymore. they did this. either everyone realizes america is already f'ed up and there's nothing to save, so we start over, or you go to jail for doing the right thing. there is no other option at this point. EDIT: to expand on this, i think it's very telling that if you've ever seen video of public accidents/attacks in china, you will often see people continually just simply avoid whoever is in need of help. this is because dealing with the authoritarian state is a dice game, and the risk vs reward simply isn't enough to motivate individual wills. there is also the reality of just about everything in an urban environment being captured on film, and keeping yourself off any recording is always better than having to deal with the state because you were spotted when an accident occurred. there is no doubt a large correlation between the pro surveillance state and the "go ahead and help out when you witness crimes that we do nothing to prosecute!" logic that coincides with the states ability to put whoever, whenever in a position that is deemed in the wrong. this is the future of america, and we're already seeing it. what's worse, like the flloyd case currently underway, is when help arrives groups of people THEN will try to verbally intervene and immediately act like they had the ability to save the person, while instead they stood there doing nothing until actual helped arrived, only to criticize and troll them. but soon that will be taken away as well. in britain (which has 2nd most state owned cameras per population), they use the surveillance state to monitor speech. so say you witness a black man beating an elder asian woman. you get involved. you physically confront, attempt to subdue, possibly fight and use potentially lethal force against a black man. the state arrives and the police thank you for doing your citizens duty. you are let go and feel good about your good deed. but upon state's review of the footage during hearing on the incident, it is noted that you told the black man to "calm down, boy!" repeatedly referring to him as a racial slur. now you are guilty of a crime and a fine has been levied with possible warrants attached because now you are deemed a possible extremists a weapons check is now valid. the insults being hurled at chauvin is a perfect example. people in america feel they are free to use this threatening speech in public, being recorded. but it's only a matter of time. those worms are not going back in that can. [/QUOTE]
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