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Anyone know a trustworthy FFL to transfer to?
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<blockquote data-quote="FAL guy" data-source="post: 1490771" data-attributes="member: 854"><p>One thing I would like to discuss is transfer pricing. Let me give you a chronological list of what we do during most common transfers. </p><p></p><p>1. A guest calls to inform us they purchased a firearm online and they would like to have it sent to us. </p><p>2. We gather the shipping dealers contact information, the purchasers contact information, and info on the gun purchased. I inform the purchaser we will contact them immediately when the firearm is logged into our books, checked into the computer, and ready for them to pick-up.</p><p>3. All this information is entered into my "incoming transfers" spreadsheet to ensure we know exactly what is coming in, from who and for who.</p><p>4. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer.</p><p>5. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer because they didn't get it the first time or lost it.</p><p>6. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer becasue they didn't get it the first or second time or lost it again.</p><p>7. I receive a call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper.</p><p>8. I receive a second call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper.</p><p>9. I receive a third call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper. This continues until gun arrives</p><p>10. Firearm is received on the dock from UPS, Fed-Ex, or at the front door from USPS and moved to the receiving area. </p><p>10.1 Purchaser shows up at counter saying UPS delivered firearm 15 minutes ago and he wants it. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p>11. Receiving clerk opens box, places firearm on "received" shelf and forwards shipping FFL and associated paperwork to a clerk for entry into our bound book.</p><p>12. Firearm is entered into our bound book, the firearm is entered into our computer system as received and I am notified it is ready to be moved to the front sales safe. The time required for this step is based on whether we received 1 delivery or 100 and can vary from 10 minutes to 24 hours. </p><p>13. The purchaser is notified the firearm is ready for pickup and I move the firearm from the warehouse receiving area to the front safe.</p><p>14. The purchaser comes in, looks at the gun , completes a 4473, we make the call, the transfer fee is paid.</p><p>15. The 4473 is reviewed at the end of business for any errors or ommissions and forwarded to a clerk for review the next day.</p><p>16. The 4473 is reviewed for any errors or ommissions the second time and the transaction is checked in our POS system to ensure the gun is electronically transferred from our POS log book. the file is then sent to another clerk for further review.</p><p>17. The 4473 is reviewed the third time for any errors or ommissions and placed in our files. The transfer out is entered into our hand written bound book...and that concludes the average transfer.</p><p></p><p>Do we put in alot of time and effort for a transfer...yes we do. Is it all necessary as there is a bunch of repetiton there? In our opinion, absolutely. Our double and triple paperwork checks ensure we have dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's for the alphabet boys. Our lively hood depends on it. If you've ever been through a total BATFE audit you know how important even one error can be. </p><p></p><p>Can we afford to go through all these steps for $10? Very simply, no. </p><p></p><p>If we could afford to do a $10 transfer, would I really want to knowing by doing so I was helping Cheaper than Dirt (insert internet gun sales company name here) sell a firearm to an Oklahoman for less than I can? That is what I mean by subsidizing the competition. A $10 transfer makes it easier for all internet dealers to compete with local dealers. The vast majority of them are drop shippers who have no inventory investment, and very little overhead. They offer little to no support after the sale. They have enough of an edge without helping them further. </p><p></p><p>I would love to see ALL dealers do everything possible to keep firearm sales in the state. We actually want other in state (and local) dealers to be successful. When dealers go out of business no matter how big or small they are it is bad for the industry, bad for the shooting sports, and bad for firearm owners.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAL guy, post: 1490771, member: 854"] One thing I would like to discuss is transfer pricing. Let me give you a chronological list of what we do during most common transfers. 1. A guest calls to inform us they purchased a firearm online and they would like to have it sent to us. 2. We gather the shipping dealers contact information, the purchasers contact information, and info on the gun purchased. I inform the purchaser we will contact them immediately when the firearm is logged into our books, checked into the computer, and ready for them to pick-up. 3. All this information is entered into my "incoming transfers" spreadsheet to ensure we know exactly what is coming in, from who and for who. 4. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer. 5. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer because they didn't get it the first time or lost it. 6. I email or fax a copy of our FFL to the shipping dealer becasue they didn't get it the first or second time or lost it again. 7. I receive a call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper. 8. I receive a second call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper. 9. I receive a third call from the purchaser inquiring if I've seen his gun. If the gun is here I remind them we will call him as soon as it is checked in. If the gun isn't here then I advise them to call the shipper. This continues until gun arrives 10. Firearm is received on the dock from UPS, Fed-Ex, or at the front door from USPS and moved to the receiving area. 10.1 Purchaser shows up at counter saying UPS delivered firearm 15 minutes ago and he wants it. :) 11. Receiving clerk opens box, places firearm on "received" shelf and forwards shipping FFL and associated paperwork to a clerk for entry into our bound book. 12. Firearm is entered into our bound book, the firearm is entered into our computer system as received and I am notified it is ready to be moved to the front sales safe. The time required for this step is based on whether we received 1 delivery or 100 and can vary from 10 minutes to 24 hours. 13. The purchaser is notified the firearm is ready for pickup and I move the firearm from the warehouse receiving area to the front safe. 14. The purchaser comes in, looks at the gun , completes a 4473, we make the call, the transfer fee is paid. 15. The 4473 is reviewed at the end of business for any errors or ommissions and forwarded to a clerk for review the next day. 16. The 4473 is reviewed for any errors or ommissions the second time and the transaction is checked in our POS system to ensure the gun is electronically transferred from our POS log book. the file is then sent to another clerk for further review. 17. The 4473 is reviewed the third time for any errors or ommissions and placed in our files. The transfer out is entered into our hand written bound book...and that concludes the average transfer. Do we put in alot of time and effort for a transfer...yes we do. Is it all necessary as there is a bunch of repetiton there? In our opinion, absolutely. Our double and triple paperwork checks ensure we have dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's for the alphabet boys. Our lively hood depends on it. If you've ever been through a total BATFE audit you know how important even one error can be. Can we afford to go through all these steps for $10? Very simply, no. If we could afford to do a $10 transfer, would I really want to knowing by doing so I was helping Cheaper than Dirt (insert internet gun sales company name here) sell a firearm to an Oklahoman for less than I can? That is what I mean by subsidizing the competition. A $10 transfer makes it easier for all internet dealers to compete with local dealers. The vast majority of them are drop shippers who have no inventory investment, and very little overhead. They offer little to no support after the sale. They have enough of an edge without helping them further. I would love to see ALL dealers do everything possible to keep firearm sales in the state. We actually want other in state (and local) dealers to be successful. When dealers go out of business no matter how big or small they are it is bad for the industry, bad for the shooting sports, and bad for firearm owners. [/QUOTE]
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