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<blockquote data-quote="k4ylr" data-source="post: 3187719" data-attributes="member: 40231"><p>This is incorrect. OAL is always measured with the stock fully extended and in the longest configurable length. There is still some muddy water regarding pistol braces however; so if you're going to play the OAL game for a non-NFA firearm it's best to assume fully collapsed at this time.</p><p></p><p>There are several things to consider when playing the is it a SBR, is a pistol, is it a rifle or is it a non-NFA firearm game:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If you have a stripped lower, and it's 4473'd to you as a RIFLE (not receiver) it cannot become a pistol per the ATF.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If your lower is transferred as a receiver; and you assemble it as a rifle; it cannot become a pistol.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If your lower is transferred as a receiver and you assemble a pistol you are free to move back and forth between pistol and/or rifle.</li> </ul><p>If you have an AR, with barrel length >16" but had a stock; it's a rifle regardless what you do with the furniture.</p><p></p><p>The ATF's litmus test for a rifle is, "<em>a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder."</em></p><p></p><p>Pistols have no barrel length restriction; so you could theoretically build a pistol with a 24" barrel and furnish it with a brace or pistol tube and be perfectly fine.</p><p></p><p>The real fun comes when you assemble a pistol, with a barrel length <16" but an OAL >26" <strong>AND</strong> a VFG you get a non-NFA <em>firearm</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="k4ylr, post: 3187719, member: 40231"] This is incorrect. OAL is always measured with the stock fully extended and in the longest configurable length. There is still some muddy water regarding pistol braces however; so if you're going to play the OAL game for a non-NFA firearm it's best to assume fully collapsed at this time. There are several things to consider when playing the is it a SBR, is a pistol, is it a rifle or is it a non-NFA firearm game: [LIST] [*]If you have a stripped lower, and it's 4473'd to you as a RIFLE (not receiver) it cannot become a pistol per the ATF. [*]If your lower is transferred as a receiver; and you assemble it as a rifle; it cannot become a pistol. [*]If your lower is transferred as a receiver and you assemble a pistol you are free to move back and forth between pistol and/or rifle. [/LIST] If you have an AR, with barrel length >16" but had a stock; it's a rifle regardless what you do with the furniture. The ATF's litmus test for a rifle is, "[I]a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder."[/I] Pistols have no barrel length restriction; so you could theoretically build a pistol with a 24" barrel and furnish it with a brace or pistol tube and be perfectly fine. The real fun comes when you assemble a pistol, with a barrel length <16" but an OAL >26" [B]AND[/B] a VFG you get a non-NFA [I]firearm[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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