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Arvest Bank is changing their stance on OC?
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<blockquote data-quote="soonersfan" data-source="post: 1973443" data-attributes="member: 9063"><p>No they are not. They are majority owned by the son of Sam Walton but are not part of Wal-Mart.</p><p> </p><p>Now that you mention it, I use a couple of in store banks and have never noticed the signs there. I don't know if this is due to the fact they are in the store or just because they have no store front to put the sign on. Frankly, I don't go looking for the signs because they don't change my behavior but I will look next time I'm in.</p><p> </p><p>Amen. I'm not an Arvest apologist but I am guessing this has more to do with liability than anything. Some actuary nerd has likely developed probabilities that determine it is better to not put up a fight and lose the money in a robbery than to put up a fight (or encourage others to do so) and have to deal potential wrongful death suits, etc. While I don't have any personal knowledge about the political affiliation of the Walton family, I would assume they lean conservative and are not anti-2nd amendment. This is most likely a business decision on their part not a political one.</p><p></p><p>I am not opposed to weapons in my business, concealed or open. However, if my insurance company informs me that my rates will sky rocket if I don't post a gun buster sign, you can be assured that I'll slap one up in a heartbeat. Every business is going to have to weigh the pros and cons of this. The decision is not as cut and dry as many of you would like to believe. It also may have nothing to do with their stance on the second amendment.</p><p></p><p>Gun owners scored a major victory in our state with having some of our second amendment rights returned. We should all try to enjoy the victory with some class and continue trying to bring more neighbors into our community. I am not referring to the anti-gun folks out there but those who are on the fence or apathetic. Don't let the little signs get you all riled up. Just untuck your shirt and go in concealed like you used to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soonersfan, post: 1973443, member: 9063"] No they are not. They are majority owned by the son of Sam Walton but are not part of Wal-Mart. Now that you mention it, I use a couple of in store banks and have never noticed the signs there. I don't know if this is due to the fact they are in the store or just because they have no store front to put the sign on. Frankly, I don't go looking for the signs because they don't change my behavior but I will look next time I'm in. Amen. I'm not an Arvest apologist but I am guessing this has more to do with liability than anything. Some actuary nerd has likely developed probabilities that determine it is better to not put up a fight and lose the money in a robbery than to put up a fight (or encourage others to do so) and have to deal potential wrongful death suits, etc. While I don't have any personal knowledge about the political affiliation of the Walton family, I would assume they lean conservative and are not anti-2nd amendment. This is most likely a business decision on their part not a political one. I am not opposed to weapons in my business, concealed or open. However, if my insurance company informs me that my rates will sky rocket if I don't post a gun buster sign, you can be assured that I'll slap one up in a heartbeat. Every business is going to have to weigh the pros and cons of this. The decision is not as cut and dry as many of you would like to believe. It also may have nothing to do with their stance on the second amendment. Gun owners scored a major victory in our state with having some of our second amendment rights returned. We should all try to enjoy the victory with some class and continue trying to bring more neighbors into our community. I am not referring to the anti-gun folks out there but those who are on the fence or apathetic. Don't let the little signs get you all riled up. Just untuck your shirt and go in concealed like you used to. [/QUOTE]
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