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<blockquote data-quote="diggler1833" data-source="post: 4032832" data-attributes="member: 48072"><p>I'm with you, and my lack of being able to articulate my position to civilians has caused me grief here more than once <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😄" title="Grinning face with smiling eyes :smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f604.png" data-shortname=":smile:" />.</p><p></p><p>I think that 99% of us on here are outdated in our training (Whatever it was). Those who still do the high-speed stuff...don't visit forums to BS. Like you; I went through a lot of courses. I was an 8531 (Primary Marksmanship Instructor), then 0931 (Combat Marksmanship Trainer)...same thing essentially as the former was grandfathered into the latter, but I did get to attend the course a second time for shits and giggles. Went through MOUT and BUST Instructor courses, and probably ran somewhere between 1,500 and 2K dudes through CMP/EMP (Combat/Enhanced Marksmanship Program) prior to their deployments during my 17 years holding those MOS's. Yet, 5 years after my retirement I bet 75% of the information has changed.</p><p></p><p>It's not the "when did you go through X...Y...Z... school" that gets me. It is the "have you done anything besides attend a school" that I care about. I want to know how you did when you had to apply what you learned.</p><p></p><p>* There are so many excellent SMEs out there with great credentials and real-world experience, and fantastic courses...yet often they are overshadowed by others who blog better, or interview better, or put out more YouTube videos.</p><p></p><p>In Mas' case, I'd listen to him day and night regarding legal examples of firearms use by civilians. There is a window of knowledge where I consider him to be an authority for sure. However, would I pay him any attention regarding tactics and equipment? No. Would you take boxing lessons from a guy who's never been in the ring?</p><p></p><p>I'm sure I'll get lit up for it again (I'll sleep just fine as usual), but you aren't going to catch me throwing any stones your way man.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diggler1833, post: 4032832, member: 48072"] I'm with you, and my lack of being able to articulate my position to civilians has caused me grief here more than once 😄. I think that 99% of us on here are outdated in our training (Whatever it was). Those who still do the high-speed stuff...don't visit forums to BS. Like you; I went through a lot of courses. I was an 8531 (Primary Marksmanship Instructor), then 0931 (Combat Marksmanship Trainer)...same thing essentially as the former was grandfathered into the latter, but I did get to attend the course a second time for shits and giggles. Went through MOUT and BUST Instructor courses, and probably ran somewhere between 1,500 and 2K dudes through CMP/EMP (Combat/Enhanced Marksmanship Program) prior to their deployments during my 17 years holding those MOS's. Yet, 5 years after my retirement I bet 75% of the information has changed. It's not the "when did you go through X...Y...Z... school" that gets me. It is the "have you done anything besides attend a school" that I care about. I want to know how you did when you had to apply what you learned. * There are so many excellent SMEs out there with great credentials and real-world experience, and fantastic courses...yet often they are overshadowed by others who blog better, or interview better, or put out more YouTube videos. In Mas' case, I'd listen to him day and night regarding legal examples of firearms use by civilians. There is a window of knowledge where I consider him to be an authority for sure. However, would I pay him any attention regarding tactics and equipment? No. Would you take boxing lessons from a guy who's never been in the ring? I'm sure I'll get lit up for it again (I'll sleep just fine as usual), but you aren't going to catch me throwing any stones your way man. [/QUOTE]
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