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<blockquote data-quote="Aries" data-source="post: 3327802" data-attributes="member: 44328"><p>I'm not done, but I have done some poking around.</p><p></p><p>If your questions are addressed, I don't find them in SDA 2019, it would have to be in some other statute. I found a couple of websites that seem to assume you cannot consume alcohol while carrying (these of course are not official) and one that refers to Oklahoma as one of several states that only says you cannot be "under the influence". As far as I've found in any actual law, currently, it only says you cannot be under the influence.</p><p></p><p>I don't find anything in SDA 2019 about sections of restaurants, or where you can or cannot be sitting. Only that if you do not have a license, you cannot carry there if they serve alcohol, but if you have a license you can carry there if it is not their primary business. There is an exception for peace officers and private investigators.</p><p></p><p>I think the bill being referenced in the original post is HB 1111, and it would apparently change these two provisions. It changes Section 1272.1, C (which originally refers to private investigators) to say:</p><p></p><p>"Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to authorize any <strong>person, employee or private investigator</strong> with or without a firearms authorization in actual physical possession of a weapon to <strong>consume </strong>beer or alcoholic beverages in any establishment where beer or alcoholic beverages are consumed."</p><p></p><p>If I understand correctly, to summarize the entire section:</p><p>You (anyone) cannot carry if their primary business is alcohol (a bar).</p><p>There are exceptions for peace officers, owners, employees (with owners permission), proprietors, and private investigators, as long as they do not <strong>consume </strong>alcohol.</p><p>It still provides an exception for a peace officer to consume while in the line of duty, but I do not see that exception for private investigators anymore.</p><p>It specifically allows anyone to carry in the bar section of a restaurant, as long as they do not <strong>consume </strong>alcohol.</p><p>Section 1272.2, A would require a business to post a 51% sign if their primary business is alcohol.</p><p></p><p>Double check me, it's entirely possible I don't understand correctly, have overlooked something in anotyher part of the bill, or may not even be looking at the correct bill or version of the bill. I am looking at the "Engrossed" version of the bill, since it has the latest date. I'm not sure exactly how the different versions works from this website...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2019-20%20ENGR/hB/HB1111%20ENGR.PDF" target="_blank">http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2019-20 ENGR/hB/HB1111 ENGR.PDF</a></p><p></p><p>This page lists the various versions, you may have to select the "versions" tab... There are significant differences in the versions, I quoted the one with the latest date.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=HB1111&Tab=1&Session=2000" target="_blank">http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=HB1111&Tab=1&Session=2000</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aries, post: 3327802, member: 44328"] I'm not done, but I have done some poking around. If your questions are addressed, I don't find them in SDA 2019, it would have to be in some other statute. I found a couple of websites that seem to assume you cannot consume alcohol while carrying (these of course are not official) and one that refers to Oklahoma as one of several states that only says you cannot be "under the influence". As far as I've found in any actual law, currently, it only says you cannot be under the influence. I don't find anything in SDA 2019 about sections of restaurants, or where you can or cannot be sitting. Only that if you do not have a license, you cannot carry there if they serve alcohol, but if you have a license you can carry there if it is not their primary business. There is an exception for peace officers and private investigators. I think the bill being referenced in the original post is HB 1111, and it would apparently change these two provisions. It changes Section 1272.1, C (which originally refers to private investigators) to say: "Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to authorize any [B]person, employee or private investigator[/B] with or without a firearms authorization in actual physical possession of a weapon to [B]consume [/B]beer or alcoholic beverages in any establishment where beer or alcoholic beverages are consumed." If I understand correctly, to summarize the entire section: You (anyone) cannot carry if their primary business is alcohol (a bar). There are exceptions for peace officers, owners, employees (with owners permission), proprietors, and private investigators, as long as they do not [B]consume [/B]alcohol. It still provides an exception for a peace officer to consume while in the line of duty, but I do not see that exception for private investigators anymore. It specifically allows anyone to carry in the bar section of a restaurant, as long as they do not [B]consume [/B]alcohol. Section 1272.2, A would require a business to post a 51% sign if their primary business is alcohol. Double check me, it's entirely possible I don't understand correctly, have overlooked something in anotyher part of the bill, or may not even be looking at the correct bill or version of the bill. I am looking at the "Engrossed" version of the bill, since it has the latest date. I'm not sure exactly how the different versions works from this website... [URL]http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2019-20%20ENGR/hB/HB1111%20ENGR.PDF[/URL] This page lists the various versions, you may have to select the "versions" tab... There are significant differences in the versions, I quoted the one with the latest date. [URL]http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=HB1111&Tab=1&Session=2000[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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