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<blockquote data-quote="StLPro2A" data-source="post: 3950453" data-attributes="member: 48052"><p>Have Tee from Warrior12.com...."God gave his Archangels weapons because even the Almighty knew you don't fight Evil with tolerance and understanding." Most individuals are sheep, not sheep dogs.....it's is easier to ignore ...until Evil comes No-Knock-Knocking. </p><p></p><p>We all want to go to Heaven....just not next Sunday. Show them the videos of White Settlement, TX church event stopped by prepared parishioner, and the Sutherland Springs, TX church shooting where 26 died before AR wielding neighbor stopped event. Had the AR stopper been in the church, as the White Settlement parishioner was, possibly no one would have died. Neither of those congregations really expected to experience a shooter. One church was prepared, the other not, with vastly different outcomes. Ask your men to choose which outcome they prefer for their church, loved ones. Ask how they will explain to survivors why they chose to not be prepared.</p><p></p><p>Our Church Watch Director, retired Dallas Police Captain, cautions not to use the term "security" for liability reasons. Civilian volunteers staff the CCTV (Closed Circuit TV) station watching 45+ cameras of grounds and inside building for unusual/suspicious activity/persons, and attendees needing assistance...slips, trips,fender benders. CCTV is purposely positioned in plain view as a deterrent to potential bad guy scoping out possible targets. If we appear vigilant, prepared, hardened, he might go else where. One only wins the gun fight, one avoids. Avoidance is the best defense. Church is adjacent local small airport with wide open areas all around. Never experienced any issues, but better to be prepared to address proactively than react behind the curve. Unusuals....anomalies....would be pointed out via radios to typically six uniformed police officers working second gigs on site to address. Civilians are merely extra eyes for the uniforms. Our church has 4-5000 attendees over three services. We have one plain clothes officer assigned to closely, on the low, guard the minister/speaker on stage/around facility. Evil exists ready to rain violence and mayhem on the unprepared. That's why one is at church...the everlasting conflict between good and evil. Be prepared to deal decisively with evil or merely be a victim-in-waiting awaiting your number to be called. Your church doesn't have the same resources, but neither did the two Texas churches mentioned above.</p><p></p><p>Contact your local police dept to explore them addressing your congregation/men to discuss potential need/options. </p><p></p><p>Some good references our Watch Team has used in learning to spot anomalies for further attention.....also, great for personal every day situational awareness:</p><p></p><p>"Left of Bang" by <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Patrick-Van-Horne/e/B00MDGA2H0?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244621&sr=8-1" target="_blank">Patrick Van Horne</a> , <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jason-A-Riley/e/B00NERC4OG?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244621&sr=8-1" target="_blank">Jason A. Riley</a> based on the Observation segment of Marine Combat Hunter Program</p><p>"When Violence is the Answer" - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tim-Larkin/e/B002JBX3ZM?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244677&sr=8-1" target="_blank">Tim Larkin</a> ID anomalies, plus act when violence is the answer...it can be.</p><p>"<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316235776/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" target="_blank">The Gift of Fear</a>" - Gavin de Becker trust your gut.....that little internal voice knows</p><p>"<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594397376/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1" target="_blank">Spotting Danger Before It Spots You: Build Situational Awareness To Stay Safe"</a> by Gary Dean Quesenberry</p><p></p><p>Congrats for thinking ahead. Best wishes in motivating your members.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StLPro2A, post: 3950453, member: 48052"] Have Tee from Warrior12.com...."God gave his Archangels weapons because even the Almighty knew you don't fight Evil with tolerance and understanding." Most individuals are sheep, not sheep dogs.....it's is easier to ignore ...until Evil comes No-Knock-Knocking. We all want to go to Heaven....just not next Sunday. Show them the videos of White Settlement, TX church event stopped by prepared parishioner, and the Sutherland Springs, TX church shooting where 26 died before AR wielding neighbor stopped event. Had the AR stopper been in the church, as the White Settlement parishioner was, possibly no one would have died. Neither of those congregations really expected to experience a shooter. One church was prepared, the other not, with vastly different outcomes. Ask your men to choose which outcome they prefer for their church, loved ones. Ask how they will explain to survivors why they chose to not be prepared. Our Church Watch Director, retired Dallas Police Captain, cautions not to use the term "security" for liability reasons. Civilian volunteers staff the CCTV (Closed Circuit TV) station watching 45+ cameras of grounds and inside building for unusual/suspicious activity/persons, and attendees needing assistance...slips, trips,fender benders. CCTV is purposely positioned in plain view as a deterrent to potential bad guy scoping out possible targets. If we appear vigilant, prepared, hardened, he might go else where. One only wins the gun fight, one avoids. Avoidance is the best defense. Church is adjacent local small airport with wide open areas all around. Never experienced any issues, but better to be prepared to address proactively than react behind the curve. Unusuals....anomalies....would be pointed out via radios to typically six uniformed police officers working second gigs on site to address. Civilians are merely extra eyes for the uniforms. Our church has 4-5000 attendees over three services. We have one plain clothes officer assigned to closely, on the low, guard the minister/speaker on stage/around facility. Evil exists ready to rain violence and mayhem on the unprepared. That's why one is at church...the everlasting conflict between good and evil. Be prepared to deal decisively with evil or merely be a victim-in-waiting awaiting your number to be called. Your church doesn't have the same resources, but neither did the two Texas churches mentioned above. Contact your local police dept to explore them addressing your congregation/men to discuss potential need/options. Some good references our Watch Team has used in learning to spot anomalies for further attention.....also, great for personal every day situational awareness: "Left of Bang" by [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Patrick-Van-Horne/e/B00MDGA2H0?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244621&sr=8-1']Patrick Van Horne[/URL] , [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Jason-A-Riley/e/B00NERC4OG?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244621&sr=8-1']Jason A. Riley[/URL] based on the Observation segment of Marine Combat Hunter Program "When Violence is the Answer" - [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Tim-Larkin/e/B002JBX3ZM?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1674244677&sr=8-1']Tim Larkin[/URL] ID anomalies, plus act when violence is the answer...it can be. "[URL='https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316235776/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1']The Gift of Fear[/URL]" - Gavin de Becker trust your gut.....that little internal voice knows "[URL='https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594397376/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1']Spotting Danger Before It Spots You: Build Situational Awareness To Stay Safe"[/URL] by Gary Dean Quesenberry Congrats for thinking ahead. Best wishes in motivating your members. [/QUOTE]
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