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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3309368" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>OODA Loop. His best option if he couldn't pull off a one second draw is "get off the X". He couldn't do that because of where he and the flock were in relation to the shooter, so going linebacker and flattening the perp was the next best option. He may have still been shot, but the odds are much higher that the 2nd victim would've survived. To be blunt, he got served a **** sandwich and ate it whole. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's always something to learn. That was a tough row to hoe and the best lessons here are OODA Loop and practice the draw from unconventional positions. Perhaps modifying the choice of gear if they don't work well under those conditions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>An astute student of the game with loved ones to protect would choose a position far from entrances and with people in-between, yet affords easy access to emergency egress. Those things along with 'gaming out the potential scenario', remaining alert and reacting immediately on instinct will buy you the two most critical things, time and distance. Your first duty is to your wife and child, either evacuating them or shielding them and neutralizing the threat. Once you have them safe, you can choose whether to evac others or engage the hostile, whichever saves the most lives.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Superb. Literally like the Hand of God.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not seen personally, but only legendary NYPD Stakeout Squad Detective Jim Cirillo comes to mind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but absent expensive and extensive force on force training, dynamic shooting competitions on the clock are a pretty decent way to develop solid skill foundations, which may allow your cognitive skills to focus on threat and tactics while the gun handling are on semi-autonomous operation. It also helps you sort your gear if you compete with what (and how) you carry.</p><p></p><p>Stress inoculation will help prepare someone for intense moments and managing stress, but no one really knows how well or poorly they will do until they're in the clutch. All you can do is train, mentally prepare and hope God is on your side if the moment comes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you intentionally trying to discourage people, or trying to get them to seek out fights so they might be prepared for someday? Because if this is honestly the way you feel then you had the absolute wrong approach and mindset when you shot matches. Or did you even shoot matches? I can't tell if you're posting out of ignorance or arrogance. Either way, it's bad advice. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In Oklahoma, a shooting ruled justifiable homicide is a legal defense against civil suit. A 3rd year law student could get the suit dismissed with prejudice in Oklahoma. Just saying...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The media is VERY busy selling the notion that the only reason he did so well is because he's FBI. Never mind that he's a 70 year old citizen who hasn't been an FBI agent for at least 15 years, and the reason his perishable skills are so hones is because he's a citizen firearms instructor. <img src="/images/smilies/rolleyes2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes2" title="Rolleyes2 :rolleyes2" data-shortname=":rolleyes2" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3309368, member: 1132"] OODA Loop. His best option if he couldn't pull off a one second draw is "get off the X". He couldn't do that because of where he and the flock were in relation to the shooter, so going linebacker and flattening the perp was the next best option. He may have still been shot, but the odds are much higher that the 2nd victim would've survived. To be blunt, he got served a **** sandwich and ate it whole. :( There's always something to learn. That was a tough row to hoe and the best lessons here are OODA Loop and practice the draw from unconventional positions. Perhaps modifying the choice of gear if they don't work well under those conditions. An astute student of the game with loved ones to protect would choose a position far from entrances and with people in-between, yet affords easy access to emergency egress. Those things along with 'gaming out the potential scenario', remaining alert and reacting immediately on instinct will buy you the two most critical things, time and distance. Your first duty is to your wife and child, either evacuating them or shielding them and neutralizing the threat. Once you have them safe, you can choose whether to evac others or engage the hostile, whichever saves the most lives. Superb. Literally like the Hand of God. Not seen personally, but only legendary NYPD Stakeout Squad Detective Jim Cirillo comes to mind. True, but absent expensive and extensive force on force training, dynamic shooting competitions on the clock are a pretty decent way to develop solid skill foundations, which may allow your cognitive skills to focus on threat and tactics while the gun handling are on semi-autonomous operation. It also helps you sort your gear if you compete with what (and how) you carry. Stress inoculation will help prepare someone for intense moments and managing stress, but no one really knows how well or poorly they will do until they're in the clutch. All you can do is train, mentally prepare and hope God is on your side if the moment comes. Are you intentionally trying to discourage people, or trying to get them to seek out fights so they might be prepared for someday? Because if this is honestly the way you feel then you had the absolute wrong approach and mindset when you shot matches. Or did you even shoot matches? I can't tell if you're posting out of ignorance or arrogance. Either way, it's bad advice. :( In Oklahoma, a shooting ruled justifiable homicide is a legal defense against civil suit. A 3rd year law student could get the suit dismissed with prejudice in Oklahoma. Just saying... The media is VERY busy selling the notion that the only reason he did so well is because he's FBI. Never mind that he's a 70 year old citizen who hasn't been an FBI agent for at least 15 years, and the reason his perishable skills are so hones is because he's a citizen firearms instructor. :rolleyes2 [/QUOTE]
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