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Concealed VS Printing - Is there an issue?
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<blockquote data-quote="TerryMiller" data-source="post: 765457" data-attributes="member: 7900"><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">From the state citation 21-1290-2 Definitions</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">1. "Concealed handgun" means a loaded or unloaded pistol carried <strong>hidden from the <u>detection and view </u>of another person either upon or about the person</strong>, in a purse or other container belonging to the person, or in a vehicle which is operated by the person or in which the person is riding as a passenger; and</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">2. "Pistol" means any derringer, revolver or semiautomatic firearm which:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">a. has an overall length of less than sixteen (16) inches and is able to be fully concealed from detection and view,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">b. is capable of discharging a projectile composed of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">c. is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">d. uses either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion to discharge the projectile. The definition of pistol for purposes of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall not apply to homemade or imitation pistols, flare guns, underwater fishing guns or blank pistols.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Based on definition number 1, referring to "detection and view", I would think that a "printed" weapon under one's clothes would have to be classified as "detected" even if the weapon itself is not in view. Then again, the statute does say "detected <strong>AND</strong> view", leading one to wonder whether "printing" alone is a problem.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Without an actual ruling from the SDA, I guess we would need to know what a LEO would have been taught regarding the "concealment".</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">That said, I don't think I would want any printing of my weapon, simply because I wouldn't want some bad guy knowing that I possess the weapon. A simple knock in the head as I left a building might leave me incapacitated enough for the bad guy to then steal my weapon. A "print" would obviously let someone know where the weapon was concealed, making it easy for them to find and grab.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryMiller, post: 765457, member: 7900"] [FONT="Georgia"][SIZE="3"]From the state citation 21-1290-2 Definitions 1. "Concealed handgun" means a loaded or unloaded pistol carried [B]hidden from the [U]detection and view [/U]of another person either upon or about the person[/B], in a purse or other container belonging to the person, or in a vehicle which is operated by the person or in which the person is riding as a passenger; and 2. "Pistol" means any derringer, revolver or semiautomatic firearm which: a. has an overall length of less than sixteen (16) inches and is able to be fully concealed from detection and view, b. is capable of discharging a projectile composed of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, c. is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and d. uses either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion to discharge the projectile. The definition of pistol for purposes of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall not apply to homemade or imitation pistols, flare guns, underwater fishing guns or blank pistols. Based on definition number 1, referring to "detection and view", I would think that a "printed" weapon under one's clothes would have to be classified as "detected" even if the weapon itself is not in view. Then again, the statute does say "detected [B]AND[/B] view", leading one to wonder whether "printing" alone is a problem. Without an actual ruling from the SDA, I guess we would need to know what a LEO would have been taught regarding the "concealment". That said, I don't think I would want any printing of my weapon, simply because I wouldn't want some bad guy knowing that I possess the weapon. A simple knock in the head as I left a building might leave me incapacitated enough for the bad guy to then steal my weapon. A "print" would obviously let someone know where the weapon was concealed, making it easy for them to find and grab.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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