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<blockquote data-quote="Lakenut" data-source="post: 3078594" data-attributes="member: 30258"><p>Update on my savage...i went shoot one, clean one for the first 10, then shoot 3, clean for the next 3 groups. That was range session 1. A good cleaning took place. Lots of copper in the grooves....which has me wondering if my between shot cleanings did much.</p><p></p><p>Range session 2 saw no cleanings between groups....just go and shoot. I shot 3 shot groups letting the gun cool 10-15min in etween groups. The bbl never got hot....but never got back to ambient temp before the next group went down range. I sent 21 rounds down range. I cleaned when I got home and found a SIGNIFICANT decrease in copper fouling, but most fouling is in the grooves. Switched to Patch Out bore cleaner and the first soak, wait 20 min, dry patch got most of the copper out.</p><p></p><p>Here is where I need advice. I would get groups under 1" on 2 out of 3 shots...but at least 1 shot of the group was 1-3" away from the other 2. I got similar results from both Hornady American Whitetail 139gr and Hornady Superformance SST 139gr. All shots were off sand bags and felt good.</p><p></p><p>1. Is this a shooter issue?</p><p>2. Is this an ammo issue?</p><p>3. Is this a bbl issue? I'm at 38 shots down range. More to break in?</p><p>4. Is it a scope issue?</p><p></p><p>Any and all advice is appreciated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lakenut, post: 3078594, member: 30258"] Update on my savage...i went shoot one, clean one for the first 10, then shoot 3, clean for the next 3 groups. That was range session 1. A good cleaning took place. Lots of copper in the grooves....which has me wondering if my between shot cleanings did much. Range session 2 saw no cleanings between groups....just go and shoot. I shot 3 shot groups letting the gun cool 10-15min in etween groups. The bbl never got hot....but never got back to ambient temp before the next group went down range. I sent 21 rounds down range. I cleaned when I got home and found a SIGNIFICANT decrease in copper fouling, but most fouling is in the grooves. Switched to Patch Out bore cleaner and the first soak, wait 20 min, dry patch got most of the copper out. Here is where I need advice. I would get groups under 1" on 2 out of 3 shots...but at least 1 shot of the group was 1-3" away from the other 2. I got similar results from both Hornady American Whitetail 139gr and Hornady Superformance SST 139gr. All shots were off sand bags and felt good. 1. Is this a shooter issue? 2. Is this an ammo issue? 3. Is this a bbl issue? I'm at 38 shots down range. More to break in? 4. Is it a scope issue? Any and all advice is appreciated. [/QUOTE]
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