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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1182370" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>Very true, yes, but 1 or 2 folks just on this board (2 I think) mentioned that they were thinking of getting one, so this may help them. As I mentioned, some of my comments are specific to the PSEs, and won't apply to others; some are general and will apply to all crossbows.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So I'm gonna unscrew a broadhead from a live arrow, stuck in a cocked & locked crossbow? I don't carry my broadhead tool into the field, and unscrewing a broadhead that is NOT in tight with your fingers is dangerous enough, not to mention one in tight, not to mention one in tight, in a live cocked crossbow. If you mean take the arrow out & unscrew it, then yeah, that's a little better, but again, I still don't have my broadhead tool in the field to take the broadhead out, and besides, I don't want to leave an xbow cocked without an arrow; then an AD results in ruined equipment from dry fire. </p><p></p><p>And even if I could switch it out easily, I ain't shooting an arrow that costs $99/half dozen into the ground. If the ground is hard, it will break or skip or any number of bad results. If it's not hard, it could bury itself up to the fletching or worse. Strip fletching. Get muddy. Etc. That's just a bad bad idea with a 350-fps-plus xbow like the PSE - way way too easy to break or lose an arrow, and they're very expensive to replace.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, they are more accurate. But as I said, not nearly nearly as much as I expected them to be - at least not this one. They are more accurate, but not THAT much more accurate - it's all to be weighed into the grand scheme of things in making a decision; this limitation on one of their advantages. A definite advantage, to be sure, but a much more limited advantage than I would have hoped/expected, at least so far.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You bet - and they will extend MY range, and yours, and I think that of most people's, from around 30 yards, to around 50 or 60 yards - almost twice or a full twice - nothing to sneeze at there! This comes in part from the added instrinsic accuracy of shooting a scoped stable platform, but at longer ranges, past 20 or so, also due to the decreased wind movement, and decreased drop estimation/ ranging error - just due to arrow speed. So the RANGE is an unquestionable HUGE advantage, but this advantage is imparted by the *accuracy* factor only in part (the actual, real accuracy stemming from a steady hold and crosshair in a single focal plane), but also in part from sheer arrow velocity, creating additional *practical* accuracy at longer ranges.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly, yes, absolutely! Huge advantage there. It's just that we had gone over the advantages in a different concurrent thread - the one labeled just "Crossbows"; whereas I was wanting this thread to discuss mainly the tradeoffs or disadvantages to those advantages previously discussed. But no reason not to remind ourselves of the advantages - you got that straight!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, I'll maybe buy that it's not too terribly much more wear and tear, like you say, depending upon material/quality, etc., but still, it's definitely MORE wear and tear, at least a little, than a manual bow, which is never held at full draw for long periods of time. But you may be right about the big picture there, as far as this being a significant downside or not - more investigation necessary; thank you. Good to know that this $1,300 piece of equipment <em>might</em> just stand up to years on end of many-hunting-day-seasons, with the bow cocked pretty much all day every day during hunting trips.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, amen to that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1182370, member: 7123"] Very true, yes, but 1 or 2 folks just on this board (2 I think) mentioned that they were thinking of getting one, so this may help them. As I mentioned, some of my comments are specific to the PSEs, and won't apply to others; some are general and will apply to all crossbows. So I'm gonna unscrew a broadhead from a live arrow, stuck in a cocked & locked crossbow? I don't carry my broadhead tool into the field, and unscrewing a broadhead that is NOT in tight with your fingers is dangerous enough, not to mention one in tight, not to mention one in tight, in a live cocked crossbow. If you mean take the arrow out & unscrew it, then yeah, that's a little better, but again, I still don't have my broadhead tool in the field to take the broadhead out, and besides, I don't want to leave an xbow cocked without an arrow; then an AD results in ruined equipment from dry fire. And even if I could switch it out easily, I ain't shooting an arrow that costs $99/half dozen into the ground. If the ground is hard, it will break or skip or any number of bad results. If it's not hard, it could bury itself up to the fletching or worse. Strip fletching. Get muddy. Etc. That's just a bad bad idea with a 350-fps-plus xbow like the PSE - way way too easy to break or lose an arrow, and they're very expensive to replace. Yep, they are more accurate. But as I said, not nearly nearly as much as I expected them to be - at least not this one. They are more accurate, but not THAT much more accurate - it's all to be weighed into the grand scheme of things in making a decision; this limitation on one of their advantages. A definite advantage, to be sure, but a much more limited advantage than I would have hoped/expected, at least so far. You bet - and they will extend MY range, and yours, and I think that of most people's, from around 30 yards, to around 50 or 60 yards - almost twice or a full twice - nothing to sneeze at there! This comes in part from the added instrinsic accuracy of shooting a scoped stable platform, but at longer ranges, past 20 or so, also due to the decreased wind movement, and decreased drop estimation/ ranging error - just due to arrow speed. So the RANGE is an unquestionable HUGE advantage, but this advantage is imparted by the *accuracy* factor only in part (the actual, real accuracy stemming from a steady hold and crosshair in a single focal plane), but also in part from sheer arrow velocity, creating additional *practical* accuracy at longer ranges. Exactly, yes, absolutely! Huge advantage there. It's just that we had gone over the advantages in a different concurrent thread - the one labeled just "Crossbows"; whereas I was wanting this thread to discuss mainly the tradeoffs or disadvantages to those advantages previously discussed. But no reason not to remind ourselves of the advantages - you got that straight! OK, I'll maybe buy that it's not too terribly much more wear and tear, like you say, depending upon material/quality, etc., but still, it's definitely MORE wear and tear, at least a little, than a manual bow, which is never held at full draw for long periods of time. But you may be right about the big picture there, as far as this being a significant downside or not - more investigation necessary; thank you. Good to know that this $1,300 piece of equipment [I]might[/I] just stand up to years on end of many-hunting-day-seasons, with the bow cocked pretty much all day every day during hunting trips. Well, amen to that. [/QUOTE]
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