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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3887113" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>It was all a set up thing once again. There were hundreds of tankers full of crude waiting to discharge in the gulf but they were not allowed to. </p><p>I was stationed at Ft Leavenworth at the time. TV investigators in Kansas City saw and started recording tanker trucks dumping fuel into tanks of gas stations were closed in the middle of the night because the tank farms were at full capacity. </p><p>It was a contrived shortage to run up prices. </p><p>Meanwhile in Ponca city we have a huge tank farm with huge gasoline storage tanks. They are easy to spot as the lids are floating to eliminate gas fumes that can be highly flammable. </p><p>There are ladders on the top that go to the center of the floating lids. When you can see the full length of the ladder, the tank is full. If it's at a 45 degree angle down, the tank is probably empty or close to it. </p><p>Currently, most of the storage tanks are near full capacity. I drive by them every day. Illegal to take pics so I can't back that up. </p><p>In the process to get diesel fuel, the crude has to be processed through cracking units/reformers and so on. </p><p>Once the propane, butane, gasoline and others are extracted from the top of the cracking unit, what is left in the bottom is kerosene and diesel with bunker oil at the bottom. (It's much more involved but that's the cliff notes.)</p><p>So, my point is, if there is not a shortage of gasoline, how can there be a shortage of diesel fuel? </p><p>It's all part of the process. </p><p>As I understand it with not much research it could be a pipeline problem with not enough capacity available back east where the shortages are expected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3887113, member: 5412"] It was all a set up thing once again. There were hundreds of tankers full of crude waiting to discharge in the gulf but they were not allowed to. I was stationed at Ft Leavenworth at the time. TV investigators in Kansas City saw and started recording tanker trucks dumping fuel into tanks of gas stations were closed in the middle of the night because the tank farms were at full capacity. It was a contrived shortage to run up prices. Meanwhile in Ponca city we have a huge tank farm with huge gasoline storage tanks. They are easy to spot as the lids are floating to eliminate gas fumes that can be highly flammable. There are ladders on the top that go to the center of the floating lids. When you can see the full length of the ladder, the tank is full. If it's at a 45 degree angle down, the tank is probably empty or close to it. Currently, most of the storage tanks are near full capacity. I drive by them every day. Illegal to take pics so I can't back that up. In the process to get diesel fuel, the crude has to be processed through cracking units/reformers and so on. Once the propane, butane, gasoline and others are extracted from the top of the cracking unit, what is left in the bottom is kerosene and diesel with bunker oil at the bottom. (It's much more involved but that's the cliff notes.) So, my point is, if there is not a shortage of gasoline, how can there be a shortage of diesel fuel? It's all part of the process. As I understand it with not much research it could be a pipeline problem with not enough capacity available back east where the shortages are expected. [/QUOTE]
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