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<blockquote data-quote="druryj" data-source="post: 3143404" data-attributes="member: 10465"><p><em>I rarely buy 10MM at a LGS or big box place, I get it online, usually LAX ammo or Target Sports, and I like Sellier and Bellot 180 Gr FMJ for the range for $13.49 a box, my last order. Aboiut the same as .45 ACP.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>You must have been using the Remington, PPU, Armscor, or Federal ammo maybe, my experience with them is yes, <u>they are way underpowered and </u>too watered down to get the real 10MM experience. In fact, a lot of the stuff you buy in a big box store is underpowered, that's why I buy my 10 MM ammo online (and prices are better online too). I check ballistics tables before buying new ammo often, I try to stick with 10MM FMJ that is pushing <u>at least</u> 550 - 650 ft lbs for range ammo (Sig FMJ 180 gr runs 624 ft lbs for example) I like Sellier and Bellot or Mag Tech 180 gr FMJ at just under 600 Ft lbs for the range and at $13.00 - $15.00 per 50, and I use the Underwood 180 Gr Gold Dots for defense at 677 ft lbs. I do have some Underwood 135 Gr stuff that runs FAST and hits at about 770 ft lbs but man; I just wanna shoot the bad guy, not vaporize him!</em></p><p><em></em></p><p> <em>Now you can shoot regular old .40 S&W from a 10MM Glock, but why? A few years ago, people did it to save money for practice; but today, 10MM is not much more than .40 if at all. (NOTE: <u>DO THIS ONLY from a Glo</u>ck., DO NOT do this from any other type of gun; it's not because Glocks are better, it's because of the way the gun is built from a design standpoint. Google it if you want to know more...)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I bought a 10MM cause I like the power, and I bought a Gen 4 Glock 29 cause I carry it. I think it is one of the most versatile pistols there is. I can carry it, put a longer after market barrel in for hunting, use the G20 mags for 15 + 1 of 10MM whoop ass, or load it with the Underwood Nuke stuff and be ready for just about anything I might need to shoot. The site </em><a href="http://www.Ballistics101.com" target="_blank"><em>www.Ballistics101.com</em></a><em> has a very convenient table you can use, just plug in grains and velocity and it will tell you the output. I'm careful when buying 10MM for the first time; I always check to make sure I'm buying a decently powered load. The <u>S&B 180 FMJ is a lot more than your old standard .40 S&W.</u> S&B 180 is a very popular range round among the 10MM crowd. Mag Tech is the same; in fact, I think Mag Tech bought S&B not long ago...anyway, it's plenty powerful and good enough for the range. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I think it's the Norwegian or maybe Finnish Ski Patrol that issues Glock 20's to their people for Polar Bear Defense. I trust my G29 loaded up with the hot stuff (I prefer Underwood) to stop anything in the lower 48, except maybe a huge angry Momma Grizzly who comes up on me in the woods as I am trying to kidnap one of her squalling cubs and I don't see myself in that situation any time soon.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>So, IMO, a 10MM pistol is a heck of a gun; I like the G29, but if I wasn't going to carry it so often, I might go with the G20 or even get the G40 if all you want to do is hunt. There are many good 10MM guns out there, Ruger even makes a nice one now in the 1911 platform too. One last thing, check YouTube videos of a Glock firing hot 10MM rounds and see how the frame's flex helps control recoil and greet you back on the front sight.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="druryj, post: 3143404, member: 10465"] [I]I rarely buy 10MM at a LGS or big box place, I get it online, usually LAX ammo or Target Sports, and I like Sellier and Bellot 180 Gr FMJ for the range for $13.49 a box, my last order. Aboiut the same as .45 ACP.[/I] [I]You must have been using the Remington, PPU, Armscor, or Federal ammo maybe, my experience with them is yes, [U]they are way underpowered and [/U]too watered down to get the real 10MM experience. In fact, a lot of the stuff you buy in a big box store is underpowered, that's why I buy my 10 MM ammo online (and prices are better online too). I check ballistics tables before buying new ammo often, I try to stick with 10MM FMJ that is pushing [U]at least[/U] 550 - 650 ft lbs for range ammo (Sig FMJ 180 gr runs 624 ft lbs for example) I like Sellier and Bellot or Mag Tech 180 gr FMJ at just under 600 Ft lbs for the range and at $13.00 - $15.00 per 50, and I use the Underwood 180 Gr Gold Dots for defense at 677 ft lbs. I do have some Underwood 135 Gr stuff that runs FAST and hits at about 770 ft lbs but man; I just wanna shoot the bad guy, not vaporize him! Now you can shoot regular old .40 S&W from a 10MM Glock, but why? A few years ago, people did it to save money for practice; but today, 10MM is not much more than .40 if at all. (NOTE: [U]DO THIS ONLY from a Glo[/U]ck., DO NOT do this from any other type of gun; it's not because Glocks are better, it's because of the way the gun is built from a design standpoint. Google it if you want to know more...) I bought a 10MM cause I like the power, and I bought a Gen 4 Glock 29 cause I carry it. I think it is one of the most versatile pistols there is. I can carry it, put a longer after market barrel in for hunting, use the G20 mags for 15 + 1 of 10MM whoop ass, or load it with the Underwood Nuke stuff and be ready for just about anything I might need to shoot. The site [/I][URL='http://www.Ballistics101.com'][I]www.Ballistics101.com[/I][/URL][I] has a very convenient table you can use, just plug in grains and velocity and it will tell you the output. I'm careful when buying 10MM for the first time; I always check to make sure I'm buying a decently powered load. The [U]S&B 180 FMJ is a lot more than your old standard .40 S&W.[/U] S&B 180 is a very popular range round among the 10MM crowd. Mag Tech is the same; in fact, I think Mag Tech bought S&B not long ago...anyway, it's plenty powerful and good enough for the range. I think it's the Norwegian or maybe Finnish Ski Patrol that issues Glock 20's to their people for Polar Bear Defense. I trust my G29 loaded up with the hot stuff (I prefer Underwood) to stop anything in the lower 48, except maybe a huge angry Momma Grizzly who comes up on me in the woods as I am trying to kidnap one of her squalling cubs and I don't see myself in that situation any time soon. So, IMO, a 10MM pistol is a heck of a gun; I like the G29, but if I wasn't going to carry it so often, I might go with the G20 or even get the G40 if all you want to do is hunt. There are many good 10MM guns out there, Ruger even makes a nice one now in the 1911 platform too. One last thing, check YouTube videos of a Glock firing hot 10MM rounds and see how the frame's flex helps control recoil and greet you back on the front sight.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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