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<blockquote data-quote="Fredkrueger100" data-source="post: 3415497" data-attributes="member: 24577"><p>No we are not saved by works. We are saved by grace through faith. But we also have to 1. Believe in Jesus, 2. Confess and repent of our sins, 3. Be baptized to have our sins forgiven, 4. Then live an obedient life. Acts 2:38. I can list scripture after scripture on salvation. But still most refuse to believe it. Most want to believe that all you have to do is believe and your saved. That is a lie. Jesus even said we had to be “born again of water and the spirit”. That is referring to being baptized. We ONLY receive the Holy Spirit when we are baptized for forgiveness. If someone hadn’t then they don’t have the Holy Spirit. Because after all, even demons believe in Jesus and shutter. So Your telling me that demons are going to heaven? I don’t think so. And that is the biggest reason most want to attend places like life church. They teach the lie that you just have to believe and that baptism is a “showing of your faith”. There is only ONE faith and ONE baptism. Why would they do that? Because it’s much easier to live believing you just have to believe. It’s a heck of a lot harder living the way scripture teaches. Being a Christian is a huge sacrifice. We are to deny ourselves and take up our cross every single day. And that ain’t easy. I have had many folks tell me that all you have to do is believe and your going to heaven. Period. No other things are required. Not only is that a lie, it’s ridiculous. I’m real sure Jesus came down here and went through what he did and then his only requirement is to believe in him. That is contrary to scripture. I don’t use things that I make up. Everything I believe is out of scripture. </p><p></p><p>As for the other person that brought up me using the term conservative. I mean orderly, respectful,etc. I can tell you this, having a rock band in worship ain’t biblical. I’m not saying someone is going to hell for it though. The reason I prefer no music is because I am praising the lord. It isn’t about me having fun and acting like I’m in a concert. But I digress.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fredkrueger100, post: 3415497, member: 24577"] No we are not saved by works. We are saved by grace through faith. But we also have to 1. Believe in Jesus, 2. Confess and repent of our sins, 3. Be baptized to have our sins forgiven, 4. Then live an obedient life. Acts 2:38. I can list scripture after scripture on salvation. But still most refuse to believe it. Most want to believe that all you have to do is believe and your saved. That is a lie. Jesus even said we had to be “born again of water and the spirit”. That is referring to being baptized. We ONLY receive the Holy Spirit when we are baptized for forgiveness. If someone hadn’t then they don’t have the Holy Spirit. Because after all, even demons believe in Jesus and shutter. So Your telling me that demons are going to heaven? I don’t think so. And that is the biggest reason most want to attend places like life church. They teach the lie that you just have to believe and that baptism is a “showing of your faith”. There is only ONE faith and ONE baptism. Why would they do that? Because it’s much easier to live believing you just have to believe. It’s a heck of a lot harder living the way scripture teaches. Being a Christian is a huge sacrifice. We are to deny ourselves and take up our cross every single day. And that ain’t easy. I have had many folks tell me that all you have to do is believe and your going to heaven. Period. No other things are required. Not only is that a lie, it’s ridiculous. I’m real sure Jesus came down here and went through what he did and then his only requirement is to believe in him. That is contrary to scripture. I don’t use things that I make up. Everything I believe is out of scripture. As for the other person that brought up me using the term conservative. I mean orderly, respectful,etc. I can tell you this, having a rock band in worship ain’t biblical. I’m not saying someone is going to hell for it though. The reason I prefer no music is because I am praising the lord. It isn’t about me having fun and acting like I’m in a concert. But I digress. [/QUOTE]
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