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<blockquote data-quote="Jim Corrigan" data-source="post: 2003220" data-attributes="member: 24714"><p>Sounds pretty commie to me. Non-productive individuals are "allowed" to be removed from the populace. You wouldn't be obligated to support "these people" because in a socialist society, everyone produces! It's a common misconception, though. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The citizen who makes his living in the private sector only works for voucher from another privately owned business that is only worth anything because of the government. Without the Federal Government, greenbacks from the Fed Reserve become as worthless as the paper they are. I could quote the multitude of income inequality stats, but why bother? If someone makes literally 100,000x as much as me, but I work my ass off, why shouldn't I have a little of that? Especially when those people are actually the ones who benefit from government intervention, ie bailouts, federally preserved golden parachutes, CEO bonuses, etc. If you make $30,000 and you pay 20% tax, you are taxed at a much higher rate because smaller numbers are farther apart. Think logarithmically instead of additionally. I can explain further if needed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Government most certainly creates wealth. The only reason your wealth is worth anything is because of the government, see above. Let's see a business "create" wealth without using: roads, telephones, faxes, internet, television, or otherwise public advertising. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. If what you are saying is we all are able to stay employed because of the government, then I certainly agree with you. This is a horribly naked statement, only using two factors, employment and taxes. There's more to real life than that. </p><p></p><p>All in all, a excellent plan for prosperity for someone, while I cough up about 50% of my income to the government. Yay! Me happy.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>And has that income been a result of winning the birth lottery and being a US citizen? Would you have that income if you lived in a hut in Indonesia but didn't pay taxes?</p><p></p><p>When people say "the government" I guess I just don't know what they mean. Isn't it "by the people, of the people, and for the people"? Aren't you and I "the government"? Are you just blaming yourselves?</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Jim Corrigan, post: 2003220, member: 24714"] Sounds pretty commie to me. Non-productive individuals are "allowed" to be removed from the populace. You wouldn't be obligated to support "these people" because in a socialist society, everyone produces! It's a common misconception, though. The citizen who makes his living in the private sector only works for voucher from another privately owned business that is only worth anything because of the government. Without the Federal Government, greenbacks from the Fed Reserve become as worthless as the paper they are. I could quote the multitude of income inequality stats, but why bother? If someone makes literally 100,000x as much as me, but I work my ass off, why shouldn't I have a little of that? Especially when those people are actually the ones who benefit from government intervention, ie bailouts, federally preserved golden parachutes, CEO bonuses, etc. If you make $30,000 and you pay 20% tax, you are taxed at a much higher rate because smaller numbers are farther apart. Think logarithmically instead of additionally. I can explain further if needed. Government most certainly creates wealth. The only reason your wealth is worth anything is because of the government, see above. Let's see a business "create" wealth without using: roads, telephones, faxes, internet, television, or otherwise public advertising. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. If what you are saying is we all are able to stay employed because of the government, then I certainly agree with you. This is a horribly naked statement, only using two factors, employment and taxes. There's more to real life than that. All in all, a excellent plan for prosperity for someone, while I cough up about 50% of my income to the government. Yay! Me happy.[/QUOTE] And has that income been a result of winning the birth lottery and being a US citizen? Would you have that income if you lived in a hut in Indonesia but didn't pay taxes? When people say "the government" I guess I just don't know what they mean. Isn't it "by the people, of the people, and for the people"? Aren't you and I "the government"? Are you just blaming yourselves? [/QUOTE]
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