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<blockquote data-quote="Buzzgun" data-source="post: 1307737" data-attributes="member: 4715"><p>I have been there, I know that the wildlife dept does not manage the deer on McAlester. I do believe I have a firm grasp on the numbers in the study, not sure you do though? From the study you referenced, the switch from modern to traditional equipment reduced the success rate by 7%, but the harvest was ALREADY too low to keep up with natural reproduction rates on the base (average harvest was 231 deer/year with compounds)! So, telling us that they needed to impose equipment restrictions because the harvest was too high to support the numbers of hunters they wanted is simply foolish! If they didn't need to reduce the harvest, and they didn't add more hunters, then, tell me, WHY did they institute equipment restrictions??</p><p></p><p>You seem to have missed my point, I'm not against the traditional hunt or traditional hunters, I am not against them managing the deer herd as they see fit and I do appreciate that they, unlike most military bases, allow civilian hunters to hunt on the facility. </p><p></p><p>I just wish they would tell the truth about WHY they restrict this hunt to traditional equipment. </p><p></p><p>I'm not asking them to allow compounds, wouldn't do me a bit of good because I couldn't use one if they did.</p><p></p><p>I also dislike the fact that they pigeon hole disabled hunters into what is usually the worst weekend, instead of giving them the same opportunity to draw a tag during the prime weekends of the hunt. </p><p></p><p>As far as them hosting the traditional shoot to promote the base hunt, you MUST be kidding! Have they EVER had a shortage of applicants for the hunt??</p><p></p><p>I last hunted McAlester in 1984, my dad and I applied for the crossbow hunt there in 2003 (I only applied so I could go with him), I drew an antelope tag that year and he drew the McAlester hunt. I believe that is the only time I applied for the McAlester hunt after 1984 and I doubt I'll ever apply for it again, unless they allow disabled hunters to apply for the rut hunts. I am fortunate enough to have other hunting opportunities, so I only apply for hunts with very good trophy potential. The "disability" hunt at McAlester is NOT a hunt with great trophy potential because it is held on the first weekend which is usually too warm for good daytime deer movement.</p><p></p><p>I'm seriously appreciative that hunting is allowed on MAAP, even though I don't apply for the hunt under current rules. This year, there were at least 1850 hunters that drew a hunt there that didn't draw a hunt where I applied (I didn't draw) and they won't have any preference points for next year's controlled deer hunts!<img src="/images/smilies/new/rubhands.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rubhands:" title="Rubhands :rubhands:" data-shortname=":rubhands:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buzzgun, post: 1307737, member: 4715"] I have been there, I know that the wildlife dept does not manage the deer on McAlester. I do believe I have a firm grasp on the numbers in the study, not sure you do though? From the study you referenced, the switch from modern to traditional equipment reduced the success rate by 7%, but the harvest was ALREADY too low to keep up with natural reproduction rates on the base (average harvest was 231 deer/year with compounds)! So, telling us that they needed to impose equipment restrictions because the harvest was too high to support the numbers of hunters they wanted is simply foolish! If they didn't need to reduce the harvest, and they didn't add more hunters, then, tell me, WHY did they institute equipment restrictions?? You seem to have missed my point, I'm not against the traditional hunt or traditional hunters, I am not against them managing the deer herd as they see fit and I do appreciate that they, unlike most military bases, allow civilian hunters to hunt on the facility. I just wish they would tell the truth about WHY they restrict this hunt to traditional equipment. I'm not asking them to allow compounds, wouldn't do me a bit of good because I couldn't use one if they did. I also dislike the fact that they pigeon hole disabled hunters into what is usually the worst weekend, instead of giving them the same opportunity to draw a tag during the prime weekends of the hunt. As far as them hosting the traditional shoot to promote the base hunt, you MUST be kidding! Have they EVER had a shortage of applicants for the hunt?? I last hunted McAlester in 1984, my dad and I applied for the crossbow hunt there in 2003 (I only applied so I could go with him), I drew an antelope tag that year and he drew the McAlester hunt. I believe that is the only time I applied for the McAlester hunt after 1984 and I doubt I'll ever apply for it again, unless they allow disabled hunters to apply for the rut hunts. I am fortunate enough to have other hunting opportunities, so I only apply for hunts with very good trophy potential. The "disability" hunt at McAlester is NOT a hunt with great trophy potential because it is held on the first weekend which is usually too warm for good daytime deer movement. I'm seriously appreciative that hunting is allowed on MAAP, even though I don't apply for the hunt under current rules. This year, there were at least 1850 hunters that drew a hunt there that didn't draw a hunt where I applied (I didn't draw) and they won't have any preference points for next year's controlled deer hunts!:rubhands: [/QUOTE]
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