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<blockquote data-quote="buckeye" data-source="post: 789160" data-attributes="member: 8467"><p>Re: Mr. Gumm</p><p></p><p>I though the whole point of "stand your ground" was that we had no duty to retreat, rather we're given legal permission to defend ourselves as necessary?</p><p></p><p>...after a little searching...</p><p></p><p>Seems like Tim Harris pushed things through, partly by pressuring an investigating detective to sign a second affidavit that reduced the number of pertinent facts from 13 to 6. That by itself pretty much wrecked Gumm's 'stand your ground' defense. That poor guy defended himself from a dangerous, drunk tweaker and the system rewarded him with a criminal record and revocation of his CCL.</p><p></p><p>I have to look into this a little more, but right now it looks like Tulsa's DA lost my vote.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Among the google's other results, this lovely little gem popped up:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>It asserts, among other things, that gun manufacturers lobbied our concealed carry laws into place to provide marketing opportunities for subcompact pistols. Yikes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buckeye, post: 789160, member: 8467"] Re: Mr. Gumm I though the whole point of "stand your ground" was that we had no duty to retreat, rather we're given legal permission to defend ourselves as necessary? ...after a little searching... Seems like Tim Harris pushed things through, partly by pressuring an investigating detective to sign a second affidavit that reduced the number of pertinent facts from 13 to 6. That by itself pretty much wrecked Gumm's 'stand your ground' defense. That poor guy defended himself from a dangerous, drunk tweaker and the system rewarded him with a criminal record and revocation of his CCL. I have to look into this a little more, but right now it looks like Tulsa's DA lost my vote. ----- Among the google's other results, this lovely little gem popped up: [url]http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf[/url] It asserts, among other things, that gun manufacturers lobbied our concealed carry laws into place to provide marketing opportunities for subcompact pistols. Yikes. [/QUOTE]
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