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<blockquote data-quote="OK Corgi Rancher" data-source="post: 3699137" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>Well, I can't compete with this. Logic and facts just can't hang with emotional rhetoric, regardless of how ridiculous it is. This post is so far removed from reality that it almost seems trollish.</p><p></p><p>If you'll carefully look at what I wrote you'll find I'm not ready to "dismiss" anything. I simply understand how our system works. You're ready to throw the guy under the bus before any investigation is complete...before all the facts are known. Good for you. That says a lot about you. I don't believe that's the correct way to respond here or ever.</p><p></p><p>And he didn't "straight up (shoot) a girl". That's a flat out lie. I seriously doubt he even knew that girl and her mother were back there. You're doing your damnedest to make this sound like the guy went in guns blazing, saw the girl, and shot her. That's just an ignorant thing to say. Not to mention if you "straight up shot" someone that implies intent. So what you're really saying, in a confused way, is you want the officer charged with murder...not manslaughter, because you obviously think there was intent on the part of the officer in killing that girl. </p><p></p><p>And if you think this is being ignored, you're not paying attention...which doesn't really surprise me. The lawyer for the girl's family just held a press conference earlier today, I think. There are stories about this incident all over the news outlets. The civil rights race-baiters are already calling for the officer to be charged. Maybe their organizations are hiring...you might be a good fit.</p><p></p><p>The officer encountered a wounded, bleeding, screaming woman in the store where he'd been told there was a crazy man attacking people. It's also been reported that some callers stated shots had been fired inside the store prior to the arrival of the police. The officer encountered the woman and the bad guy. Bad guy bends over, partially obscured by display shelves and it looks like he's reaching for something. So the officer made the right call in ventilating him and ending the threat (in my opinion based on the video). </p><p></p><p>I've read the round that killed the girl may have ricocheted off the floor and went thru the wall. I haven't seen the evidence and I haven't read the reports. Did the round impact the bad guy somewhere? Did the officer just miss? The bad guy was moving rather quickly when the officer fired so that's a distinct possibility. The point is, I don't know. I know the facts, along with all the other dynamics of this shooting, apparently don't matter to you but they do to me. And, thankfully, they do to the majority of other people. For your sake, I hope if you ever find yourself in court for making a mistake you don't have people like you on your jury.</p><p></p><p>I have no problem with an officer being held accountable for his/her actions as long as that officer is afforded due process just like everyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OK Corgi Rancher, post: 3699137, member: 45773"] Well, I can't compete with this. Logic and facts just can't hang with emotional rhetoric, regardless of how ridiculous it is. This post is so far removed from reality that it almost seems trollish. If you'll carefully look at what I wrote you'll find I'm not ready to "dismiss" anything. I simply understand how our system works. You're ready to throw the guy under the bus before any investigation is complete...before all the facts are known. Good for you. That says a lot about you. I don't believe that's the correct way to respond here or ever. And he didn't "straight up (shoot) a girl". That's a flat out lie. I seriously doubt he even knew that girl and her mother were back there. You're doing your damnedest to make this sound like the guy went in guns blazing, saw the girl, and shot her. That's just an ignorant thing to say. Not to mention if you "straight up shot" someone that implies intent. So what you're really saying, in a confused way, is you want the officer charged with murder...not manslaughter, because you obviously think there was intent on the part of the officer in killing that girl. And if you think this is being ignored, you're not paying attention...which doesn't really surprise me. The lawyer for the girl's family just held a press conference earlier today, I think. There are stories about this incident all over the news outlets. The civil rights race-baiters are already calling for the officer to be charged. Maybe their organizations are hiring...you might be a good fit. The officer encountered a wounded, bleeding, screaming woman in the store where he'd been told there was a crazy man attacking people. It's also been reported that some callers stated shots had been fired inside the store prior to the arrival of the police. The officer encountered the woman and the bad guy. Bad guy bends over, partially obscured by display shelves and it looks like he's reaching for something. So the officer made the right call in ventilating him and ending the threat (in my opinion based on the video). I've read the round that killed the girl may have ricocheted off the floor and went thru the wall. I haven't seen the evidence and I haven't read the reports. Did the round impact the bad guy somewhere? Did the officer just miss? The bad guy was moving rather quickly when the officer fired so that's a distinct possibility. The point is, I don't know. I know the facts, along with all the other dynamics of this shooting, apparently don't matter to you but they do to me. And, thankfully, they do to the majority of other people. For your sake, I hope if you ever find yourself in court for making a mistake you don't have people like you on your jury. I have no problem with an officer being held accountable for his/her actions as long as that officer is afforded due process just like everyone else. [/QUOTE]
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