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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 1589398" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>You can't use deadly force under the SDA to "rescue" someone you don't know. You can however use deadly force if you have reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm, say, if they tried to attack you as you aided the elderly couple. It's a fine line and not one you want to approach lightly.</p><p></p><p>When considering the use of deadly force against a large group of unarmed assailants, you also need to be able to articulate a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and disparity of force. Yet again, a line you should actively avoid approaching. While it's obvious from the multiple eyewitness reports that the mob attack at the WI State fair was racially motivated, you have to understand that shooting a young black person in a mob setting will nonetheless result in YOU being portrayed in the media as a racist killer. You have no duty to retreat in OK, but under these circumstances, you'd be a fool not to. The media and DA's offices around here do not suffer law abiding fools lightly. </p><p></p><p>I believe I could articulate disparity of force and reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm under the circumstances portrayed, but I'd want the deck stacked further in my favor if it came to that. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 1589398, member: 1132"] You can't use deadly force under the SDA to "rescue" someone you don't know. You can however use deadly force if you have reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm, say, if they tried to attack you as you aided the elderly couple. It's a fine line and not one you want to approach lightly. When considering the use of deadly force against a large group of unarmed assailants, you also need to be able to articulate a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and disparity of force. Yet again, a line you should actively avoid approaching. While it's obvious from the multiple eyewitness reports that the mob attack at the WI State fair was racially motivated, you have to understand that shooting a young black person in a mob setting will nonetheless result in YOU being portrayed in the media as a racist killer. You have no duty to retreat in OK, but under these circumstances, you'd be a fool not to. The media and DA's offices around here do not suffer law abiding fools lightly. I believe I could articulate disparity of force and reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm under the circumstances portrayed, but I'd want the deck stacked further in my favor if it came to that. :( [/QUOTE]
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