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Marines Choose 9mm Glock 19 OVER .45 ACP 1911 for Special Operators
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<blockquote data-quote="druryj" data-source="post: 2913191" data-attributes="member: 10465"><p>Howdy Mo. It's just a matter of preference. And nostalgia... I agree in large about adopting the G19, and said in post #1 that the G19 is a damn fine combat handgun. Consider that certain individuals and elements within the USMC's Recon Community fought to bring the .45ACP (Colt 1911) <em>back</em> after the Beretta was adopted. Of course, it's easy for me and some others to remember that that was <em>a long time ago</em>! It took a bit, but eventually, the 1911 found its way back in the holsters of Force Recon Marines who liked the pistol for certain missions. One of the missions trained for was, and still is, VBSS. (Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure). The characteristics of the .45ACP pistol and the .45ACP round itself <em>were</em> preferred over the 9mm for this type of mission by many. But, like I said, that was then (30+ years ago) and this is now...</p><p></p><p>Yes, from a logistics standpoint, the G19 trumps the Colt .45ACP pistol all day every day. And that is true at the individual level in terms of weight of pistol and ammo; and the small unit/organizational level too in terms of spare parts and how much ammo can be packed and transported. Honestly, given modern ammo, I guess I just have to give it up and agree that the G19 can do the job as well as the venerable old Colt 1911 in .45ACP, and from a logistical standpoint, it only makes good sense to do what has been done.</p><p></p><p>Sorry if I seem argumentative, I'm just an old Marine who still likes his bullets big and slow. (Although, I often carry a Glock 43. Go figure).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="druryj, post: 2913191, member: 10465"] Howdy Mo. It's just a matter of preference. And nostalgia... I agree in large about adopting the G19, and said in post #1 that the G19 is a damn fine combat handgun. Consider that certain individuals and elements within the USMC's Recon Community fought to bring the .45ACP (Colt 1911) [I]back[/I] after the Beretta was adopted. Of course, it's easy for me and some others to remember that that was [I]a long time ago[/I]! It took a bit, but eventually, the 1911 found its way back in the holsters of Force Recon Marines who liked the pistol for certain missions. One of the missions trained for was, and still is, VBSS. (Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure). The characteristics of the .45ACP pistol and the .45ACP round itself [I]were[/I] preferred over the 9mm for this type of mission by many. But, like I said, that was then (30+ years ago) and this is now... Yes, from a logistics standpoint, the G19 trumps the Colt .45ACP pistol all day every day. And that is true at the individual level in terms of weight of pistol and ammo; and the small unit/organizational level too in terms of spare parts and how much ammo can be packed and transported. Honestly, given modern ammo, I guess I just have to give it up and agree that the G19 can do the job as well as the venerable old Colt 1911 in .45ACP, and from a logistical standpoint, it only makes good sense to do what has been done. Sorry if I seem argumentative, I'm just an old Marine who still likes his bullets big and slow. (Although, I often carry a Glock 43. Go figure). [/QUOTE]
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