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<blockquote data-quote="Singularis" data-source="post: 2933559" data-attributes="member: 32412"><p>Back when I was a big Constitutionalist I was all for the 10th Amendment agrument, States' rights, federalism, and all that... now I am more pragmatic. That may have been how things once worked in this country, but it hasn't been for some time.</p><p></p><p>The fact is that we now live under a highly centralized governmental system in which the feds can regulate pretty much anything they want, and the courts will back them up. If pro-gun people don't use this power to increase freedom when they have the chance, it sure as hell isn't going to stop the antis from using it to take away freedom when they are in power. Of course this power will be used to take away freedom much more often than it will be used to protect it... but if you refuse to use it when you have it, you will get nothing at all, while the other side that has no such restraints uses it to pound you. All out of some misguided fantasy that we live under a system of government that we haven't had in this country for at least 80 years... maybe more like 150 years. </p><p></p><p>Of course this doesn't change the fact that I think we live under a terrible system and think we should be working to dismantle it in every way possible... but if we don't play by the rules of the game we're currently playing, we're going to just flat put get our asses beat every time. And unfortunately that game is currently "Sovietized totalitarian centralized government police state." </p><p></p><p>I say grab an expansion of carry rights now, to make up for whatever disarmament scheme the antis try to push next time they're holding the bullwhip... while we work towards secession, revolution, and every other way we can think of to get out from under this sorry-ass system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Singularis, post: 2933559, member: 32412"] Back when I was a big Constitutionalist I was all for the 10th Amendment agrument, States' rights, federalism, and all that... now I am more pragmatic. That may have been how things once worked in this country, but it hasn't been for some time. The fact is that we now live under a highly centralized governmental system in which the feds can regulate pretty much anything they want, and the courts will back them up. If pro-gun people don't use this power to increase freedom when they have the chance, it sure as hell isn't going to stop the antis from using it to take away freedom when they are in power. Of course this power will be used to take away freedom much more often than it will be used to protect it... but if you refuse to use it when you have it, you will get nothing at all, while the other side that has no such restraints uses it to pound you. All out of some misguided fantasy that we live under a system of government that we haven't had in this country for at least 80 years... maybe more like 150 years. Of course this doesn't change the fact that I think we live under a terrible system and think we should be working to dismantle it in every way possible... but if we don't play by the rules of the game we're currently playing, we're going to just flat put get our asses beat every time. And unfortunately that game is currently "Sovietized totalitarian centralized government police state." I say grab an expansion of carry rights now, to make up for whatever disarmament scheme the antis try to push next time they're holding the bullwhip... while we work towards secession, revolution, and every other way we can think of to get out from under this sorry-ass system. [/QUOTE]
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