Nick Saban comes clean and it’s TELLING but true

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Seems to me the schools have just reaped what they've sown here.
This.

Schools made bank on the back of a flawed system for years. And during that time the schools could have done something to change the system. The NCAA could have done something to change the system, too. But the incentives weren't there and nothing changed.

Now that the players have legal protections it's been a CF, but it's not because the players are doing anything beyond getting what would be due them in any other profession. Rather than be ahead of it, the establishment refused to fix it and now it's reaping what it sewed.

If people want to talk about disloyalty, look at how many coaches would jump ship for a bigger payday. How many schools abandoned long-standing regional conferences for a bigger slice of the TV pie. We will have softball teams flying from coast to coast instead of taking bus rides of an hour. And all because the TV networks offer big bucks for football teams to be in the same conference.
 

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If people want to talk about disloyalty, look at how many coaches would jump ship for a bigger payday.
I don't think that's as big of a factor as you'd think. I'm not saying nobody jumped specifically for a bigger paycheck, but most coaches jumped because it was a step up on the coaching ladder--they were moving to a more prestigious program, and the fact that more prestigious programs pay their coaches more was just gravy on the biscuit. In short, the coaches getting higher pay was, most likely, an effect, not a cause.

Look at the high-profile coaching moves--historically, it has almost always been something like Les Miles leaving OSU for LSU, and very rarely would it be a Nick Saban going from Alabama to Podunk State just because Podunk State hit a windfall and can suddenly compete with the big boys on coaching salaries. When they do go from a prestigious program to a smaller school, it's usually either because they screwed the pooch at the big school or there was some intermediate stop (often the NFL) between the schools.
 

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I don't think that's as big of a factor as you'd think. I'm not saying nobody jumped specifically for a bigger paycheck, but most coaches jumped because it was a step up on the coaching ladder--they were moving to a more prestigious program, and the fact that more prestigious programs pay their coaches more was just gravy on the biscuit. In short, the coaches getting higher pay was, most likely, an effect, not a cause.

Look at the high-profile coaching moves--historically, it has almost always been something like Les Miles leaving OSU for LSU, and very rarely would it be a Nick Saban going from Alabama to Podunk State just because Podunk State hit a windfall and can suddenly compete with the big boys on coaching salaries. When they do go from a prestigious program to a smaller school, it's usually either because they screwed the pooch at the big school or there was some intermediate stop (often the NFL) between the schools.
true but in this context we are arguing that players aren’t showing any loyalty. Yet coaches haven’t been expected to be loyal.

Sure, they might move to a better program but so are players right now. Or perhaps a program where they think they can be more successful. And it also might come with more money (just as it does for the coaches).

if a player, who wasn't recruited by a big program, has a breakout year why shouldn’t they be able to move to that big program after they had success?

It wouldn’t be that different than a coach having a great season and moving from a smaller program to a bigger one.

it’s rich for coaches to complain about players doing something that coaches have been doing for a long time.
 

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