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<blockquote data-quote="Bierhunter" data-source="post: 1238471" data-attributes="member: 3178"><p>That's a good question, and one than many think about. The problem I see with society's view on these things is that people place too much emphasis on the object and not the attacker.</p><p></p><p>For example...</p><p></p><p>Our company allows us to have pens and pencils in the office. What happens if someone stabs a coworker in the neck with a pencil? Who is liable? The attacker, or the company for allowing us to have pencils?</p><p></p><p>Whether it's a pencil, or a gun, I think the responsibility lies with the attacker. We [society] try too hard to place responsibility and blame on others. People need to be held responsible for their own actions.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, juries will most likely be filled with jurors who expect the world to care for them; so it has to be somebody else's fault.</p><p></p><p>If it's a privately owned business, I believe the owner has the right to prohibit whatever he wishes (within legal limits of anti-discrimination laws for places of business). I may not agree with that business' policies, but I feel they have the right to make those policies. I'm very much against the 'no guns' policies, but I feel the owner has the right to make their own decisions.</p><p></p><p>Customers can choose to do business there or not.</p><p></p><p>Once I go walking around in public, I can't think of any place that can guarantee protecting me. And, I don't expect them to. We each have to choose for ourselves what our acceptable risks are when we're out and about.</p><p></p><p>I don't expect business policies to be my babysitter and personal guard. I take that responsibility upon myself.</p><p></p><p>As far as being an employee at a place that prohibits firearms (which I do work at a place like that), I have to weigh the options of violating policy and losing my job or abiding by the rules. I choose to abide by the rules (and keep it in my vehicle). When we decide to accept a paycheck, we accept the rules that go with the paycheck. Otherwise, we need to find a different source of a paycheck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bierhunter, post: 1238471, member: 3178"] That's a good question, and one than many think about. The problem I see with society's view on these things is that people place too much emphasis on the object and not the attacker. For example... Our company allows us to have pens and pencils in the office. What happens if someone stabs a coworker in the neck with a pencil? Who is liable? The attacker, or the company for allowing us to have pencils? Whether it's a pencil, or a gun, I think the responsibility lies with the attacker. We [society] try too hard to place responsibility and blame on others. People need to be held responsible for their own actions. Unfortunately, juries will most likely be filled with jurors who expect the world to care for them; so it has to be somebody else's fault. If it's a privately owned business, I believe the owner has the right to prohibit whatever he wishes (within legal limits of anti-discrimination laws for places of business). I may not agree with that business' policies, but I feel they have the right to make those policies. I'm very much against the 'no guns' policies, but I feel the owner has the right to make their own decisions. Customers can choose to do business there or not. Once I go walking around in public, I can't think of any place that can guarantee protecting me. And, I don't expect them to. We each have to choose for ourselves what our acceptable risks are when we're out and about. I don't expect business policies to be my babysitter and personal guard. I take that responsibility upon myself. As far as being an employee at a place that prohibits firearms (which I do work at a place like that), I have to weigh the options of violating policy and losing my job or abiding by the rules. I choose to abide by the rules (and keep it in my vehicle). When we decide to accept a paycheck, we accept the rules that go with the paycheck. Otherwise, we need to find a different source of a paycheck. [/QUOTE]
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