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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 2564020" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Given your primary job function, I'm sure you have better knowledge of the laws governing access to federal facilities than I do. I can't cite them, but you know as well as I do that they exist. Should he be granted <em>immediate</em> exemption to them just by showing up to the gate and demanding access? I don't believe he should. Should the HHS Director be able to grant him a statutory exemption to physical security procedures due to his position as a Representative? Sure, if the statutes allow for it.</p><p></p><p>I attribute the "three week" timeframe more to government bureaucracy than malice. As a credentialed FAA employee, it often took me three weeks or more to secure access to other aviation facilities. As a new employee at my current position, I couldn't visit the work location prior to my "on-board date" because all visit requests required three weeks advance notice. Red tape, plain and simple.</p><p></p><p>I'm just saying that every Representative we send to Washington should not be, nor claim to be, entitled to show up wherever and whenever they want and demand access, anymore than we can. Nor do I believe any statutory authority exists to allow it. There are ways for those in charge of the purse strings to investigate and request information and execute their duties as <em>legislators</em>. He's a legislator, not an investigator.</p><p></p><p>If the good Representative had sent a request through official channels, from his office to theirs, requesting access on such and such date, I bet he would've received it. But that wouldn't play as well in the press as showing up at the gate and throwing a fit. Every side engages in information operations. Looks like in this case he executed it pretty well because a lot of folks are buying it.</p><p></p><p>How would you feel if a liberal anti-gun representative from Oklahoma showed up at OSBI's office demanding to have access to a list of every permit holder in the state? What if he/she showed up at Fort Sill or Tinker demanding to see the on-base resident's firearms registration forms or demand a tour of the military weapons/munitions storage areas? Should they be given it just because he/she is a "Congressman from Oklahoma"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 2564020, member: 42"] Given your primary job function, I'm sure you have better knowledge of the laws governing access to federal facilities than I do. I can't cite them, but you know as well as I do that they exist. Should he be granted [I]immediate[/I] exemption to them just by showing up to the gate and demanding access? I don't believe he should. Should the HHS Director be able to grant him a statutory exemption to physical security procedures due to his position as a Representative? Sure, if the statutes allow for it. I attribute the "three week" timeframe more to government bureaucracy than malice. As a credentialed FAA employee, it often took me three weeks or more to secure access to other aviation facilities. As a new employee at my current position, I couldn't visit the work location prior to my "on-board date" because all visit requests required three weeks advance notice. Red tape, plain and simple. I'm just saying that every Representative we send to Washington should not be, nor claim to be, entitled to show up wherever and whenever they want and demand access, anymore than we can. Nor do I believe any statutory authority exists to allow it. There are ways for those in charge of the purse strings to investigate and request information and execute their duties as [I]legislators[/I]. He's a legislator, not an investigator. If the good Representative had sent a request through official channels, from his office to theirs, requesting access on such and such date, I bet he would've received it. But that wouldn't play as well in the press as showing up at the gate and throwing a fit. Every side engages in information operations. Looks like in this case he executed it pretty well because a lot of folks are buying it. How would you feel if a liberal anti-gun representative from Oklahoma showed up at OSBI's office demanding to have access to a list of every permit holder in the state? What if he/she showed up at Fort Sill or Tinker demanding to see the on-base resident's firearms registration forms or demand a tour of the military weapons/munitions storage areas? Should they be given it just because he/she is a "Congressman from Oklahoma"? [/QUOTE]
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