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<blockquote data-quote="spd67" data-source="post: 1102900" data-attributes="member: 9008"><p>OK here goes....there is no provision in the second amendment for a permit process. I would have you look to the 9th and 10th amendment. 9th amendment The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. so what it is saying is that the rights in the Bill of rights states that the rights are retained by the people. If we take this into effect then we look to the 10th amendment, The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. So what that means is that the federal government cannot make a permit process or infringe on our second amendment rights but a state can if a vote of the people says they can. The people of Oklahoma can enter into a vote to have these things like a permit process. when the bill comes to vote for open carry if you don't like the permit aspect of it don't vote for it or lobby to have it changed but if the majority of people vote for it then so be it the will of the people of this state is done and not a single right is infringed upon. </p><p></p><p>As for your "Deep thinking exercise" don't confuse the practice and exercise of religion with something like gun rights you will not find a permit in a house of worship. I would challenge you to find in the Bible, Koran, or other text where God gives you the right to carry a gun without a permit or to even carry a gun....I'll be waiting</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong I am all about gun rights and the right to carry a gun I just don't think that a Permit is abridging those rights.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spd67, post: 1102900, member: 9008"] OK here goes....there is no provision in the second amendment for a permit process. I would have you look to the 9th and 10th amendment. 9th amendment The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. so what it is saying is that the rights in the Bill of rights states that the rights are retained by the people. If we take this into effect then we look to the 10th amendment, The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. So what that means is that the federal government cannot make a permit process or infringe on our second amendment rights but a state can if a vote of the people says they can. The people of Oklahoma can enter into a vote to have these things like a permit process. when the bill comes to vote for open carry if you don't like the permit aspect of it don't vote for it or lobby to have it changed but if the majority of people vote for it then so be it the will of the people of this state is done and not a single right is infringed upon. As for your "Deep thinking exercise" don't confuse the practice and exercise of religion with something like gun rights you will not find a permit in a house of worship. I would challenge you to find in the Bible, Koran, or other text where God gives you the right to carry a gun without a permit or to even carry a gun....I'll be waiting Don't get me wrong I am all about gun rights and the right to carry a gun I just don't think that a Permit is abridging those rights. [/QUOTE]
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