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<blockquote data-quote="Rod Snell" data-source="post: 1957769" data-attributes="member: 796"><p>No, you can be arrested without the owner present, and herein lies the rub for those who claim that for a business, there has to be verbal notification in addition to a sign.</p><p>In fact, there was an arrest in my credit union in Altus for carrying past the gunbuster sign, but the simple trespass charge was never filed, because after he was taken in, he was found to be a TX resident, prior felon, illegally in possession of a gun. The general consensus was he intended to rob the place.</p><p></p><p>Another case in Altus that started with having a gun where it was not supposed to be and also turned into felony drug charges and illegal possession. I can't prove, but strongly suspect that these two anecdotal instances may represent the usual case where more serious charges are filed, similar to the land trespass that turned into felony robbery of the property in a farm building.</p><p></p><p>Some upstanding citizens who have walked past signs or incidentally exposed their guns have just been reminded not to do it again.</p><p></p><p>As someone observed above, the legal situation is exactly as it was before the changes in carry, which I consider a bit of a muddled picture as commonly applied. IANAL, and this opinion is worth what you paid for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rod Snell, post: 1957769, member: 796"] No, you can be arrested without the owner present, and herein lies the rub for those who claim that for a business, there has to be verbal notification in addition to a sign. In fact, there was an arrest in my credit union in Altus for carrying past the gunbuster sign, but the simple trespass charge was never filed, because after he was taken in, he was found to be a TX resident, prior felon, illegally in possession of a gun. The general consensus was he intended to rob the place. Another case in Altus that started with having a gun where it was not supposed to be and also turned into felony drug charges and illegal possession. I can't prove, but strongly suspect that these two anecdotal instances may represent the usual case where more serious charges are filed, similar to the land trespass that turned into felony robbery of the property in a farm building. Some upstanding citizens who have walked past signs or incidentally exposed their guns have just been reminded not to do it again. As someone observed above, the legal situation is exactly as it was before the changes in carry, which I consider a bit of a muddled picture as commonly applied. IANAL, and this opinion is worth what you paid for it. [/QUOTE]
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