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<blockquote data-quote="bigfug" data-source="post: 3940862" data-attributes="member: 4864"><p>Not yet. You have to realize budget constraints with a department this size. Realistically, they look for cost savings. In the past two years, we've had to move to SUV's completely, where a]s we could purchase sedans before. Thats not an option anymore. The SUV's have gone up $8k this year alone, plus the additional cost of the equipment, such as second partition to separate the cargo area from the prisoner area, window guards all around, the additional cost of the TVI bumper vs previous push bar, any increased cost on the equipment already put in, the dashcams that are now installed, we also started a rifle program a few years ago, so the cost of the rifle racks, etc. Some of these costs may seem miniscule, like a few hundred dollars, but when you are dealing with roughly 150 cars a year, it all adds up. Looking at these, they come at a cost of $5k 3 years ago. From their site, they only have 400+ in service nationwide. OCPD has over 800 marked patrol vehicles, so from a cost standpoint, let alone viability standpoint, its not an easy decision. This would cost the dept roughly $750,000 a year to add to our new builds, and I dont think they would work on Explorers as they are a unibody fwd design, so the dept would have to switch to a Tahoe or half ton truck at an increased cost, increased fuel cost, tires, brakes, etc and LEDT re-training in addition to training on the device. At this time due to chip shortages, Chevy really isn't doing an SSV so they can use the chips for the higher cost civilian vehicles as the SSV's are bought on government contract at a much lower price point. When it comes to unmarked vehicles, admin etc, PD is being whatever they can off the lot, usually at an increased price because they are unable to order on contract like they have in the past. Even then do they put them on every vehicle? If not, which vehicles and officers get them? What happens if an officer gets promoted out of patrol, retires, switches shifts, divisions etc? Do they take from other necessary programs to fund things like this? We've got a new bomb truck and hostage negotiator vehicle this year at costs combined over $500k, a 2nd bearcat has been purchased but not delivered, and the same for a 3rd aircraft as more air support coverage is needed (its not 24/7). A lot of these were very necessary as the previous bomb truck and negotiator van were probably two decades old, or older. The previous were no where near the cost, nor have technology any where close to the new ones. We are dealing with issues worse than during the peak off COVID, for example, the Tahoes you see on I40 etc, the unmarked are OCPD units, then you typically see the marked Sheriffs Units, these are CITCO (City/County) drug interdiction units, we had one down for almost 3 weeks as they couldn't get brakes for it. We are dealing with things like this constantly on almost a daily basis. They painted the top of our new K9 builds white to keep the heat down, and the white paint was unavailable for weeks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigfug, post: 3940862, member: 4864"] Not yet. You have to realize budget constraints with a department this size. Realistically, they look for cost savings. In the past two years, we've had to move to SUV's completely, where a]s we could purchase sedans before. Thats not an option anymore. The SUV's have gone up $8k this year alone, plus the additional cost of the equipment, such as second partition to separate the cargo area from the prisoner area, window guards all around, the additional cost of the TVI bumper vs previous push bar, any increased cost on the equipment already put in, the dashcams that are now installed, we also started a rifle program a few years ago, so the cost of the rifle racks, etc. Some of these costs may seem miniscule, like a few hundred dollars, but when you are dealing with roughly 150 cars a year, it all adds up. Looking at these, they come at a cost of $5k 3 years ago. From their site, they only have 400+ in service nationwide. OCPD has over 800 marked patrol vehicles, so from a cost standpoint, let alone viability standpoint, its not an easy decision. This would cost the dept roughly $750,000 a year to add to our new builds, and I dont think they would work on Explorers as they are a unibody fwd design, so the dept would have to switch to a Tahoe or half ton truck at an increased cost, increased fuel cost, tires, brakes, etc and LEDT re-training in addition to training on the device. At this time due to chip shortages, Chevy really isn't doing an SSV so they can use the chips for the higher cost civilian vehicles as the SSV's are bought on government contract at a much lower price point. When it comes to unmarked vehicles, admin etc, PD is being whatever they can off the lot, usually at an increased price because they are unable to order on contract like they have in the past. Even then do they put them on every vehicle? If not, which vehicles and officers get them? What happens if an officer gets promoted out of patrol, retires, switches shifts, divisions etc? Do they take from other necessary programs to fund things like this? We've got a new bomb truck and hostage negotiator vehicle this year at costs combined over $500k, a 2nd bearcat has been purchased but not delivered, and the same for a 3rd aircraft as more air support coverage is needed (its not 24/7). A lot of these were very necessary as the previous bomb truck and negotiator van were probably two decades old, or older. The previous were no where near the cost, nor have technology any where close to the new ones. We are dealing with issues worse than during the peak off COVID, for example, the Tahoes you see on I40 etc, the unmarked are OCPD units, then you typically see the marked Sheriffs Units, these are CITCO (City/County) drug interdiction units, we had one down for almost 3 weeks as they couldn't get brakes for it. We are dealing with things like this constantly on almost a daily basis. They painted the top of our new K9 builds white to keep the heat down, and the white paint was unavailable for weeks. [/QUOTE]
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