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<blockquote data-quote="okiebryan" data-source="post: 1931531" data-attributes="member: 24457"><p>Starting Nov 1, there are several little aspects of this new law that will be contradictory or at least silly. For instance, if an officer approaches for a license check b/c you are carrying a visible handgun, you STILL HAVE TO NOTIFY if you are being detained. How do you know if you are being detained? Ask, I guess. But it's possible to have an officer check your permit without it being a legal detention, I think. It's confusing.</p><p></p><p>I'm working on another article that outlines how OKOCA recommends handling police encounters. We are still compiling advice from attorneys and police officers. Some of it makes sense, the rest we will have to just see.</p><p></p><p>One thing to keep in mind, cops don't have to tell you their RAS. For example... you are walking down the street minding your own business. Cops rolls up on you and asks for your permit, you present it, he looks at it, hands it back and says have a nice day. Next encounter, you are walking down the street minding your own business. Cop rolls up on you and starts barking orders to get on the ground and put your hands on your head. Now he handcuffs you and relieves you of your firearm...While you are thinking this cop is violating your rights, he actually has a report of an armed robbery 3 blocks away matching your description and clothing. He doesn't have to tell you that, and if you argue or resist your day is gonna go really badly. </p><p></p><p>See how the totality of circumstances can totally change the way this goes down?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okiebryan, post: 1931531, member: 24457"] Starting Nov 1, there are several little aspects of this new law that will be contradictory or at least silly. For instance, if an officer approaches for a license check b/c you are carrying a visible handgun, you STILL HAVE TO NOTIFY if you are being detained. How do you know if you are being detained? Ask, I guess. But it's possible to have an officer check your permit without it being a legal detention, I think. It's confusing. I'm working on another article that outlines how OKOCA recommends handling police encounters. We are still compiling advice from attorneys and police officers. Some of it makes sense, the rest we will have to just see. One thing to keep in mind, cops don't have to tell you their RAS. For example... you are walking down the street minding your own business. Cops rolls up on you and asks for your permit, you present it, he looks at it, hands it back and says have a nice day. Next encounter, you are walking down the street minding your own business. Cop rolls up on you and starts barking orders to get on the ground and put your hands on your head. Now he handcuffs you and relieves you of your firearm...While you are thinking this cop is violating your rights, he actually has a report of an armed robbery 3 blocks away matching your description and clothing. He doesn't have to tell you that, and if you argue or resist your day is gonna go really badly. See how the totality of circumstances can totally change the way this goes down? [/QUOTE]
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